I was actually going to start this thread after my Spider-Man Marathon. As much as you hate the genre, great minds........



As for cliche scenes, anything that isn't "natural", i.e. born with it (Superman), be it Hero or Villain, they all share a common element.....

The Lab Effect - All powers of the Hero / Villain originates in a Lab, where their experiments go horribly wrong (Hulk, Doc Ock, Green Goblin). Of course there are variations that are "simplistic" in that all it takes is a spider bite. A good alternative is Daredevil who is blinded by toxic waste, but doesn't have super powers like Spidey or Superman, but just harnesses his other senses to get an advantage over others.

The Damsel In Distress - Every Hero has girl that he is in love with and in every case, she is in harms way. Well, Daredevil has a good twist in that his object of affection comes in the form of ass kicking Elektra .

Actually, hating the genre will probably mean you find issues that people who like the movies might miss.

The Voiceover.  Who am I?  Are you sure you want to know?  Why are you hearing my thoughts.  Because the sidekick doesn't appear very often these days, and that character was basically created so that the hero had someone he could TALK to.

The hero and villain are typically the sides of the same coin, sometimes having origins directly or indirectly tied to each other.  That's usually to keep stuff simple, but it only works once.  It seems very odd when the sequel rolls around and you need a new guy for the hero to fight.  Lex Luthor is an interesting counterpoint because for a long time or in a lot of iterations he wasn't connected to Superman's origins.  But he's so overused in Superman, especially the movies, that I will have a big amount of respect for the new movies if they keep him the heck out of it.

The Lab Effect is big in the Marvel universe since most of their titles come from the 60s and the big rise of Sci-Fi.

The villain somehow is able to get a whole slew of henchmen, sometimes an army.



When fighting, the army of henchmen attack one at a time. Circling the super hero from all directions