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Avatar (2009)
« on: January 04, 2012, 05:59:25 pm »

Avatar is a visual feast for the eyes unlike anything you have seen before. There is no doubting that. But this is far from a perfect film and it boils down to the story that's being told. Watching Avatar, the first thing that dawned on me is how closely it follows Dances With Wolves. I have no idea if this was intentional or not, but it's unmistakable. There are other films and plots that I easily recognize but I'm not going to dwell on that. The other thing that kind of bugged me were the characters and of course the run time of the movie itself. It was way too long. Had it been shorter, we would have gotten to the confrontation a lot sooner. Having said that, the second half of the movie picked up a great deal and was for me the most exciting thing to watch. It was the lead-in that was kind of dragging it downward and as I said before, the characters themselves weren't compelling enough to want to watch the Navi train Jake.

But by the time we get to the conflict and all the carnage that follows, suddenly I felt for those 2 characters as well as their race as a whole. I wouldn't say this is a Buy, even though I'll probably end up getting the Special Edition. So for now, this is a Rent.

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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 06:49:24 pm »
I have enjoyed Avatar from the moment I saw it. And can't believe I'm going to say this but if you haven't seen it in 3D, you're missing a whole other dimension that just totally absorbs you. This was the perfect marriage of story and 3D. It's probably going to be a very rare thing to say that. This was another visionary tale Cameron developed to entertain the masses, and he scored big.
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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 06:54:31 pm »
We are probably the only ones that will admit to looking forward to the sequels. I've read what Cameron is doing as far as prep work in where he wants to take the next installment: Pandora's Ocean.
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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 06:43:59 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 07:52:38 am »
I was definitely wrapped up in the hype by Avatar. I was excited waiting for it. Excited watching it and thrilled it was made. Watching it in 3D on the big screen was magical. I loved it. I thought 3D did bring a whole new dimension to the movie experience. Years later I still find it a fun and long movie, but find the buzz has diminished greatly. I appreciate the 3D, but chalk it up to one of those rare moments where story and 3D enhanced. I don’t see a need for 3D to be in other movies though. Avatar is almost a wholly animated movie. I know lots of folks that just don’t get animation. Cameron, in my mind did the impossible with animating humans to a degree that was not only acceptable, but more than believable. I believe I’ve commented on my rather distaste for motion capture animated movies of late. They just creep me out.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 08:01:52 am »
James Cameron is a f ucking genius. And just as you said, he did the impossible. I know your take on 3D in general and how you detest it for the most part, but you have to know that Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 will be in 3D as well. I expect them to be in 4D or some new version of it what 3D is just because Cameron is always looking for ways to push the medium and I welcome it.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 08:16:58 am »
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but you have to know that Avatar 2 and Avatar 3 will be in 3D as well. I expect them to be in 4D or some new version of it what 3D is just because Cameron is always looking for ways to push the medium and I welcome it.

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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 07:43:53 pm »
Chip, this may be of interest to you...

'Avatar' Colorist Skip Kimball Joins Technicolor (Exclusive)


Colorist Skip Kimball, whose credits include James Cameron’s Avatar, will join Technicolor Creative Services in Hollywood next week.


He comes from Modern Videofilm, where he was senior colorist, working on movies ranging from Real Steel to Gone Baby Gone.

His work on Avatar is notable not only because it was the highest-grossing movie of all time but because of its unprecedented postproduction requirements.

There were 18 different delivery versions of Avatar created for the domestic market, plus an additional 92 for international markets, which were released in 47 languages.

In addition to the need for versions to accommodate various 2D, 3D, film and digital auditoriums, Cameron made the decision to create versions at different aspect ratios and light levels (3D projection and glasses can cut down the light that the viewer sees) in order to project the best possible images in each theater configuration.
Led by lead colorist Kimball, Modern VideoFilm completed 22 full color grades of Avatar for the different aspect ratios and light levels.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 07:51:16 pm »
Thanks for this. Good read too.
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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 10:09:21 am »
Fox & James Cameron Slapped With $50M ‘Avatar’ Copyright Suit By Album Cover Artist

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The highest-grossing movie of all time is again the subject of a copyright legal battle. Artist William Roger Dean filed a complaint against James Cameron and 20th Century Fox on Thursday seeking more than $50 million in damages over Avatar. Unlike past Avatar plaintiffs, Dean has an established pedigree. He is a well known artist who has created album covers for such big-selling bands as Yes and Asia and exhibited his fantasy landscapes and other work around the world. In fact, it is the ubiquity of his work, as well as a movie proposal based on it that he took at the 2005 Cannes Film Fest, that has Dean convinced the look of the 2009 3D sci-fi film were derived from his images. “The similarities of each such work are substantial, continuing, and direct so as to rule out any accidental copying or similarity in scenes common to the genre. The infringing portions of Avatar are so similar to Plaintiffs Works that Defendants and others employed in the preparation of the film must have had access to the Plaintiffs Works,” says his 17-page complaint (read it here) filed June 27 in U.S District Court in New York. The filing cites numerous specific examples from the world of Pandora to the foliage and creatures that populate it where Dean sees his own work. Along with copyright infringement, Dean also is claiming contributory infringement, breach of implied contact, unfair competition and unjust enrichment.



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This is the fourth Avatar suit Cameron and Fox have had to deal with in the past year or so alone. In March, a federal judge gave the green light to a trial on part of screenwriter Bryant Moore’s multibillion-dollar copyright lawsuit over the movie. Moore claims that scripts of his that were submitted to Cameron’s company were used as the basis for Avatar. The case is likely to end up in front of a jury in the next couple of months. The other two suits have ended in the director and the studio’s favor. In September of last year, Cameron and Fox prevailed over a copyright infringement suit from writer Elijah Schkeiban, who claimed Avatar was ripped off from his novel and subsequent film script Bats And Butterflies. In January, the director won a summary judgment in a suit from Gerald Morawski, who also accused Cameron of ripping off his ideas to come up with the movie.

In this wide ranging compliant, Dean is not just after the $50 million or more to be proved at trial. The artist also wants an injunction, a full accounting and a court order to be posted online and elsewhere that the defendants ripped off his work. And he wants those rights enforced for future Avatar projects. “Further, upon information and belief, Defendants intend to film two (2) sequels and possibly a ‘prequel’ to Avatar, and a Walt Disney World Avatar-themed attraction, which sequels, prequel and attraction are very likely to utilize many of the original images of Plaintiff which would further continue Defendants breach of contractual obligations owed to Plaintiff,” the complaint says. Dune Entertainment, Lightstorm Entertainment and Ingenious Film Partners 2 are named as defendants along with Cameron and 20th Century Fox Film Corp and 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment. Dean is represented by Steven M. Hayes of NYC firm Hanly Conroy Bierstein Sheridan Fisher & Hayes.



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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 10:12:14 am »
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Re: Avatar (2009)
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2013, 12:11:51 pm »
Via io9, a history of plagiarism claims against James Cameron.  No wonder he makes so few movies, given how often he's taken to court (you notice how, with the possible exception of "Jingle All The Way," these lawsuits never pop up for bad movies?).

 

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