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The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« on: November 22, 2015, 09:20:40 am »
The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened?




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I've been tracking The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? for a number of reasons. For starters, who doesn't want to spend 90 minutes with a bunch of talking heads that had their hands directly involved with a movie that never got made? Who doesn't want to hear from the horses mouth (Tim Burton) about what their take on Superman would have been? And who doesn't want to hear Kevin Smith tell the same story again? If you have ever watched An Evening with Kevin Smith, you are already very well aware of said story in which Kevin recounts how he came about to writing the first draft of what would be Superman Lives. The same story also touches up on Jon Peters and his infatuation with a Giant Spider. Well, this documentary owes a great deal to Kevin's story because it's really the catalyst that spurred on fans to want to know more about the aborted Tim Burton / Nic Cage Superman flick that never was.

The doc covers everything from rumor to fact as all phases of the pre-production is addressed. When I first heard about Tim and Nic joining forces to make this flick, I had the same reaction: Huh? What the f*ck! But as you watch the doc unfold, you get sucked into what is definitely a bizarre take on the Man of Steel. Yes, it's weird, odd and very un-commercial and most likely would have been a massive bomb had it ever gotten released back in 1998. But by the time the end credits rolled for the doc, I was left begging for this movie to get made. In this day and age of Comic Book movies being released at an alarming rate and all feeling pretty much the same, a movie like Superman Lives would be a breath of fresh air. Whether you love or hate Comic Book movies, this doc is a fantastic look behind the curtain of how Hollywood is run and how development hell usually kills a movie long before "fan outrage" gets their hooks on it. FYI, the footage with Nic in Costume is fantastic (both video and still images). There's actually more video footage of Nic than I thought existed. The artwork that we get to see here is awesome. I want a Coffee-book / Art book for myself. I'd buy it for sure.

After watching the doc, I wouldn't be surprised if some kid or kids or a Film Student took the information in the doc and decided to make their interpretation of the story that would have been told. I have no idea if there are any fan films out there now or in comic book form. But if they exist, I definitely want to check them out for myself.
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Re: The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 07:13:12 pm »
Watched this last night... without my headphones so I missed some things here and there.  Yeah, the design work is cool, and it would have been interesting to see what all could have been done (I was kicking myself for not taking notes while watching this flick... rather uncharacteristic of me), but at the same time, all this focus on the cool visuals and making something new and different, all I could think was "what about the characters? what about the relationships?"  It's okay to play with the source material, but I feel like whatever movie they would have wound up with would have been weak if we don't care about the people in it.  Plus, I feel ike the story would have been really plot-heavy, running through so much material the whole thing would feel rushed.

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Re: The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 07:54:31 pm »
Yeah, I too thought the same thing. With how many things they were changing and adding to the overall story, the one thought that came into my head was that this was just waaaaaay too much stuff for one movie. No way in hell Burton would have been able to shoehorn all that into 2 hours. Sure, he could have done just that, but it would have felt rushed for sure. I was thinking Trilogy , but obviously the studio would never have gotten on board with something like that given all the sh*t this movie was getting in pre-production.
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Re: The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2015, 07:17:54 am »
I just had a thought: maybe they'll use all this material and make one of those DC animated DVD movies with it.

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Re: The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2015, 07:24:11 am »
You and I are on the same page. It's probably the only way it's ever going to happen because on paper, what we've been told through the doc, that looks to be one expensive movie if done Live.
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Re: The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2015, 09:40:22 am »
But you know that the animated version, legally, isn't going to feel like the real thing.  Superman might look a BIT like Nic Cage, but it won't be someone doing a Nic Cage voice. It'll be that animation where it's just read solid, characters are bulked up.... okay, I just don't like the look of those animated flicks, they feel real static to me.

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Re: The Death of Superman Lives: What Happened? (2015)
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2015, 10:46:29 am »
Yeah, that's why in my original post, I was hoping and pulling for some kid with a camcorder or a comic book artist to do it themselves so that they can do it right rather than having to answer to WB. Sure, it will never get released through them and will have to find it's audience online through word of mouth as a cult project. I would much rather see that instead of something "official" by the studio for the very reason you just stated.
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