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Re: Politics
« Reply #585 on: September 27, 2016, 03:05:25 pm »
How is it Johnson was not involved tonight?

He had to be a combined 15% from 5 recent polls to qualify for the Debate Stage. His average has been in the 8%-10% range. If I'm Drumpf (and thank God I'm not), I'd be BEGGING to get Johnson into the next debate so that he won't have to be front and center like last night.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #586 on: September 27, 2016, 04:16:08 pm »
Are we talking about the same Trump who only lives a life of front and center?
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« Reply #587 on: October 03, 2016, 09:31:47 am »
Pretty much sums up my thoughts after the debate and the week from hell. I've said from the beginning, he in no one exudes presidential demeanor.

The Trump Supporter’s Week from Hell

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Andy Schmookler Award-winning author of What We’re Up Against, former Democratic nominee for Congress in Virginia, political commentator and talk radio philosopher

This piece is appearing in newspapers in my conservative congressional District.


For Donald Trump’s supporters, as the week of the first presidential debate began, things looked better than ever. Once Trump stopped going after a judge of Mexican descent and a Gold Star father, and started keeping such impulses under wraps, Trump had climbed steadily in the polls, pulling almost even with his Democratic opponent.

Then came the Monday evening debate — with all it revealed to nearly 100 million Americans — and all that transpired in the days afterwards.

For a Trump supporter, the week’s developments have not only diminished the likelihood of a Trump victory (according to all the evidence from polls and predictor markets). What’s worse, I would think, is how what the week’s revelations raise red flags about the desirability of his becoming president.

Consider:

In the wake of the debate, Trump insisted on waging a days-long fight with a former Miss Universe. Engaging in this fight was worse than getting sidetracked. It was positively injurious to his presumed purpose of getting elected. Which surely must raise the question:

Does it make sense to put into the hands of someone who picks his fights foolishly the power to choose decide for America between war and peace?

Trump’s major supporters had advised him — since his self-destructive rants in August — to avoid just this sort of conduct - advice that apparently was renewed as he went after this former beauty queen. But he ignored that advice.

Does it make sense to choose as the steward of America’s foreign affairs, and as commander-in-chief of our armed forces, a man unable or unwilling to follow wiser counsel to protect him from his own bad decisions?

Trump had surely seen how seriously he had injured his campaign, back in August, by continually pressing fights against people irrelevant to his task of persuading the American electorate to elect him president. But here he was, doing the same thing again.

How well-served will America likely be if the person at the helm — a rookie in the political world — is incapable of learning from his own mistakes?

During the debate, Trump’s opponent said that Trump “thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese,” to which Trump replied, “I did not. I do not say that.” Within minutes, the fact-checking universe brought forward Trump’s own tweet saying, “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.” Which should raise the question for all Americans,

If we can’t trust him to tell us the truth about something that is so easily verified, how well could we trust him as president to tell us the truth about situations that play out away from the public eye?


The evidence was overwhelming that Donald Trump was the loser in this first presidential debate. But in the course of the ensuing days, Trump himself seemed to deny that evident reality, insisting that he’d done just fine. Word came out, moreover, that he angrily forbade the people around him to concede that there had been any problem with his performance.

How safe would the nation be in the hands of someone who cannot recognize or admit his errors?

Much of the discussion of Trump’s disastrous debate performance centered around his lack of proper preparation for the event, in stark contrast to his well-prepared opponent. Various people privy to Trump’s debate prep process later spoke to reporters about what the process was like. It emerged that Trump was apparently unable to focus on the task, unable to approach the challenge in a disciplined way.

How well able would an unfocused, undisciplined mind be to deal with a complex, dangerous crisis that might arise on his watch?


For example, the 2000 film Thirteen Days portrays the most dangerous crisis thus far in human history: the 1962 Cuban Missile crisis in which the United States and the Soviet Union came closer than ever before or since to an all-out nuclear war. The film shows what disciplined and sustained strategic thinking, on the part of President Kennedy and his advisors, went into finding a successful resolution of that crisis. The well-being of all Americans (and indeed the whole world) depended on the American president having capabilities that members of Trump’s inner circle report that Trump lacks.

Is there anything in the political picture that any American can wisely say should outweigh these revelations from Trump’s week from hell?
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Re: Politics
« Reply #588 on: October 04, 2016, 06:51:18 am »
Julian Assange moves speech to Berlin due to 'specific information'


I don't know if you guys are keeping up with Julian Assange and his Wikileaks this past year or not, but he was suppose to release / announce his latest batch this morning, but has since delayed that due to his fear of being assassinated. I've been waiting for this October Surprise like everyone else. He promised a bombshell. Now is it possible that he has purposely inflated this for his own notoriety? Of course. But I am curious what's in it. Rumor has it that one of the 'smoking guns' has "proof" that Clinton herself has suggested using a Drone to take him out, which I consider to be big. But is this the "Game Changer" he and everyone has referred to? I have no idea. Still fascinating to read though.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #589 on: October 04, 2016, 11:39:28 am »
I've had an ear out for it. Not to this level. Now you have my attention.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #590 on: October 05, 2016, 09:25:01 am »
Tim Kaine is a douche. I hated him going into the debate last night and now I hate him even more.
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« Reply #591 on: October 05, 2016, 09:43:24 am »
I gave zero thought to even watching that debate.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #592 on: October 06, 2016, 10:41:11 am »
Gary Johnson won’t (or can’t) name North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong Un


This guy really IS stupid. I gave him a pass (somewhat) when he couldn't give an answer about Aleppo. But I rolled my eyes when he couldn't name a 'living leaders' he admired. Now, with the knowledge that he couldn't name the North Korean dictator, that's just too much to swallow. This guy makes Drumpf look.....(I hate to say it.)....."smart".
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Re: Politics
« Reply #593 on: October 06, 2016, 03:11:35 pm »
Gary Johnson: I’d sleep well siphoning votes from Clinton

Wow, this just in...his stupidity has no end in sight. So, Johnson is okay with playing the spoiler roll, even if that means Drumpf wins and Weld has come out in support of Clinton. This marriage is clearly over. So, why the f*ck are they even running if they have opposite views?
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Re: Politics
« Reply #594 on: October 06, 2016, 07:45:49 pm »
Thanks for confirming this guy is a butthead. I think we can rule this guy out, even as a alternative for vote.

Back to the other to asshats to **** us all off.

Gawd, I hate this is where we've come too.
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« Reply #595 on: October 08, 2016, 11:21:20 am »
Trump in damage control mode over crude hot mic audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKC6ZaG72mw

You have to be living under a rock to not have heard about what has gone down in the last 24 hours. It's safe to say that he is DOA the moment the video was leaked. What ever slim shot he had at winning is effectively gone. There is no way he will win. And I'll go a step further and say he will in fact drop out, in spite of his proclamation he will continue onward. I said before and I'll say again, he will quit because he needs to create an "out" for himself to say that he never got beat by Clinton, blah blah blah.

Okay, with that said, I still don't understand why the RNC doesn't do a media blitz with ads across the board telling Republicans and Independents to just Vote using the Write-In Option and to write *insert RNC choice name*. The RNC has loaded with unlimited money to actually make a serious dent on air. No one wants Drumpf or Clinton. A Write-In ad campaign could work.

One last thing regarding the video. Why is no one calling out Drumpf that he has no game. He literally insulted himself as not having game. He brags about how "famous" people can more or less get what they want. In this case girls. And yet, even with his "fame" he STILL failed. Dude's got no game at all....even with all that money.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #596 on: October 08, 2016, 06:14:30 pm »
BREAKING NEWS:

Looks like the GOP is trying to convince Mike Pence to quit the ticket, which would in effect force Drumpf to quit. It's a dream scenario, but think about how this is a chess match playing on the grandest stage ever. Pence quits. Drumpf quits. GOP declares Pence the Republican Nominee. Enjoy this while it last because we are never going to see anything like this Political race ever again in our lifetime. Thanks God.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #597 on: October 08, 2016, 06:39:41 pm »
This race is soooooooooo f*cked up.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #598 on: October 08, 2016, 06:59:13 pm »
That'll be interesting, except it's too late to do anything like that.  Trump is the nominee.  Voting's been going on since September.  It's way too late for them to change their nominee.  If they want Pence (who would be a totally different disaster than Trump), they'd have to convince people to vote for Trump and promise to remove him the second he's inaugurated (there's already enough to actually IMPEACH him), but that's not going to give anyone any confidence.  "Vote for us, we screwed up but you can trust us to handle it!"  Yeah, right.

A lot of the people who are psyched to vote for Trump are doing so because he's not a politician.  If Trump drops out, they won't pick the Republican replacement, they'll just stay home.  That's a big chunk gone.  A lot of Republicans are saying they'll write in a name, but I don't know if write-ins for Pence would count the same as votes for the Republican nominee (and who's to say they won't write in someone else's name?)

There's never been anything like this in American politics.  It's kind of amazing to watch.  I wonder what the end result will be, not the election results, but the future of the Republican and Democrat parties, how nominees are selected... a lot has to change, but I doubt that anyone will ever actually learn from their mistakes.  They'll chalk it up to an insane black swan moment and subject us to more of the poor planning, crummy news coverage etc that we just went through.  We'll never have another Trump, but I sincerely doubt the system that let him in is going anywhere.

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Re: Politics
« Reply #599 on: October 08, 2016, 07:13:08 pm »
So, this just happened: The Wall Street Journal just announced that they're dropping all support for Trump, essentially conceding the Presidential election, and redirecting money into the down ballot races.  Incredible.  I wonder how well that will work out for them.

They seem to want Pence to drop off the ticket and form a new one, Pence-Carson, but again, I don't know if that's allowed.  They don't get mulligans, not this far into things.  And Pence, let's not forget, is incredibly unpopular and also unelectable.  He would never get this far on his own, he was going to lose his own re-election in Indiana because he screwed it up so bad.  On top of being a bad businessman, this one tweet going around describes his sexual politics perfectly: "Make no mistake, ladies: Trump may be the face of your rapist, but Pence is every judge who made sure he got away with it."
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