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Religion...
« on: August 26, 2012, 04:08:12 pm »
Religion...

Religion, Politics and Sex are those things not discussed. Well, Religion and Politics anyway. That's what people say and I've learned from hard experience myself. Discussion of politics and religion is so tricky. I think it can be discussed in a respectful and reasonable manner. Unfortunately, many people out there think otherwise... If you don't think their way... something is wrong with you. Something I never understood.

I ran across this video sometime back and think it's brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY
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Re: Religion...
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 10:08:04 am »
Apologies are at least in the right direction, but more needs to be done.

NY priest apologizes for saying child is often seducer in sex abuse cases

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NEW YORK -- A New York priest says he "deeply regrets" if he hurt anyone by his comments that priests accused of child sex abuse are often seduced by their accusers and that a first-time offender should not go to jail.

The Rev. Benedict Groeschel of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal apologized Thursday for the comments he made in an interview with the National Catholic Register, published this week. The conservative, independent Register removed the story from its website and posted an apology for publishing the comments. Groeschel and the friars did as well.

"I did not intend to blame the victim. A priest (or anyone else) who abuses a minor is always wrong and is always responsible," Groeschel said in his post on the website. "My mind and my way of expressing myself are not as clear as they used to be. I have spent my life trying to help others the best that I could. I deeply regret any harm I have caused to anyone."

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2012, 11:03:41 am »
Priest: Blame Teens For Seducing Us Into Sex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1SRdt0dCLM

I forgot to post this earlier. As for the "apology", I call bullsh*t!. It's not sincere. It's a Priest trying to save face.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2012, 11:34:23 am »
Sick f ucks....

Its one story like this that completely tarnishes religion. And I don't mean to sound like just one story and it's minimal. In my mind, the worst kind of evil. I'm saying, start adding other phucked up thinking and actions by religion and it sure is hard to accept.

It's no wonder the numbers decrease.
I know I constantly question things today.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 09:18:46 am »
Fail...

though the clergy are now recommending vaccinations, to much, to late.

Church advocating Faith Healing sickened 21 (and counting) with Measles

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An outbreak of measles tied to a Texas megachurch where ministers have questioned vaccination has sickened at least 21 people, including a 4-month-old infant -- and it’s expected to grow, state and federal health officials said.

“There’s likely a lot more susceptible people,” said Dr. Jane Seward, the deputy director for the viral diseases division at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Sixteen people -- nine children and seven adults -- ranging in age from 4 months to 44 years had come down with the highly contagious virus in Tarrant County, Texas, as of Monday. Another five cases are part of the outbreak in nearby Denton County.

All of the cases are linked to the Eagle Mountain International Church in Newark, Texas, where a visitor who’d traveled to Indonesia became infected with measles – and then returned to the U.S., spreading it to the largely unvaccinated church community, said Russell Jones, the Texas state epidemiologist.

“We have a pocket of people that weren’t immunized,” said Jones, noting that vaccination rates typically hover above the 98 percent range in his county.

At least 21 people are part of a growing measles outbreak linked to Eagle Mountain International Church in Newark, Texas, health officials said. This Center for Disease Control and Prevention photo depicts the characteristic rash of measles after three days of infection.

The ill people were all linked to the church that is a division of Kenneth Copeland Ministries. That group advocates faith-healing and advises people to “first seek the Wisdom of God” and then appropriate medical attention in matters of health, according to an online statement.

Terri Pearsons, a senior pastor of Eagle Mountain International Church and Copeland’s daughter, previously said she had concerns about a possible ties between early childhood vaccines and autism, a position that has been refuted by health officials.

In the wake of the measles outbreak, however, Pearsons has urged followers to get vaccinated and the church has held several vaccination clinics, according to its website. Health officials said the church administration has been very cooperative in the outbreak investigation. Pearsons did not return an email from NBC News seeking comment.

“We continue to follow up on pending and confirmed cases to help in any way we can to keep the outbreak contained,” a church statement said. “We ask that others join us in prayers over this outbreak.”

Health authorities notified the church of the first cases on Aug. 14; Texas state health officials issued a warning about the outbreak on Aug. 16. In the meantime, hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000 contacts could have been affected by potentially infected people, Seward said.

“In this community, these cases so far are all in people who refused vaccination for themselves and their children,” she added.

Of the 16 cases in Tarrant County, 11 did not have any measles vaccination. The others may have had at least one measles vaccination, but they couldn’t produce documentation, county officials said.

The outbreak raises to 159 the total number of confirmed measles cases in the U.S. this year. The disease that once killed 500 people a year in the U.S. and hospitalized 48,000 had been considered eradicated after a vaccine introduced in 1963. Cases now show up typically when an unvaccinated person contracts the disease abroad and spreads it upon return to the U.S.

Five previous cases in Texas this year were far higher than typical years, but don’t appear to be related to the current outbreak, state officials said.

Measles is so contagious that 90 percent of people who are not immune to the disease or vaccinated against it will get sick, health officials warned. It is a respiratory disease spread by sneezing or coughing. The virus can live in the air or on infected surfaces for up to two hours. Symptoms include fever, cough, runny nose and sore throat, plus a characteristic red rash that starts on the face or hairline and spreads to the rest of the body. It can take eight days to two weeks after exposure before an infected person develops symptoms.

Health officials recommend that children receive a Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine at age 12 months and again at 4 to 6 years. Unless adults have previously had measles or are immunized, health officials say they should be vaccinated.

“We just want people to be aware and well-informed about the risks of the disease, especially when they travel abroad,” Seward said. 
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Re: Religion...
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 09:16:37 am »
Dolan: "I think the Pope is on to something"

I'm not Catholic and so the Pope, to me, represents only leadership to the followers of Catholicism.

But even from an outside view, I am finding The Pope's views and comments a very good thing for Catholics and helping out the face of religion.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/53060024

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 04:15:37 pm »
Leah Remini: Church of Scientology Wants Me to Fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZUvG0ZdYEM

I think it's a pretty damning indictment when you have one of your own flesh and blood denouncing what many consider to be nothing more than a 'rich man's cult'.
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Re: Religion...
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 09:26:10 am »
Hell, I'm not even Catholic and the new Pope continually grabs my attention and impresses me.

Pope Francis makes toughest remarks yet on 'horrific' abortion

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Conservatives were alarmed when Francis told Italian Jesuit magazine Civilta Cattolica in September that the Church must shake off an "obsession" with teachings on abortion, contraception and homosexuality.

His stance favoring mercy over condemnation has disoriented conservative Catholics, notably in rich countries such as the United States, where the Catholic Church has become polarized on issues such as abortion.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 06:43:46 pm »
Hell, I'm not even Catholic and the new Pope continually grabs my attention and impresses me.


This seems to be the majority of everyone out there, myself included. I never followed any of the other Popes, but this new one is doing a lot of stuff that is newsworthy, which makes me want to see what he does next.
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Re: Religion...
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2014, 09:59:09 am »
This could go under so many subjects including Glorious Fail and WTF, but since this asshat is speaking from a religious point of view... here ya go.

Truly jaw dropping with every thought that comes out of this man's mouth.

Wow

Bill Donohue: Marriage is not about love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Yx_fMado4
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2014, 12:35:58 pm »
The more I see stuff like this.. the more I think it has nothing to do with what God wants from us. They miss the mark so badly.
I think I'm becoming agnostic.

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2014, 03:01:31 pm »
You don't have to become agnostic. I just think that your personal relationship with God is all that matters. Remember, everyone on this planet is NOT God, even if they like to think they are. It's all about YOU and GOD....not some idiot (as seen in the video) that is clearly pushing his own agenda. Stay the course Mac:)
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2014, 06:22:59 am »
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You don't have to become agnostic. I just think that your personal relationship with God is all that matters. Remember, everyone on this planet is NOT God, even if they like to think they are. It's all about YOU and GOD....not some idiot (as seen in the video) that is clearly pushing his own agenda. Stay the course Mac.

I didn't mean to give the impression I don't believe. I do, very much and it's in a way you describe. Very personal, just between me and God.

I know this is a result of my curiosity about God and Religion and asking so many questions. The more I find out, the more difficult/easier it becomes.

I found this on wiki, which helps me clarify a little better.

Types of agnosticism

A person calling oneself 'agnostic' is stating that he or she has no opinion on the existence of God, as there is no definitive evidence for or against. Agnosticism has, however, more recently been subdivided into several categories. Variations include:

Agnostic atheism
    The view of those who do not believe in the existence of any deity, but do not claim to know if a deity does or does not exist.

Agnostic theism
    The view of those who do not claim to know of the existence of any deity, but still believe in such an existence.

Apathetic or pragmatic agnosticism
    The view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appears unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic. Therefore, their existence has little to no impact on personal human affairs and should be of little theological interest.[24][25]

Strong agnosticism (also called "hard", "closed", "strict", or "permanent agnosticism")
    The view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities, and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you."

Weak agnosticism (also called "soft", "open", "empirical", or "temporal agnosticism")
    The view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable; therefore, one will withhold judgment until evidence, if any, becomes available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day, if there is evidence, we can find something out."
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2014, 09:54:52 am »
Jesus curses "figs"

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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2014, 11:20:15 am »
Ficus owners are the real sinners!!
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