Author Topic: Tablets and Handheld Devices (Formerly the Cintiq Thread) (Read 3101 times)

Chiprocks1 · « **on:** August 15, 2011, 10:00:33 am »

Cintiq: 21UX (2nd Gen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inrl7JgnYK4

I already have the Wacom Intunos Tablet and it's okay as it was meant to be a temporary fill-in. I've had it for maybe 5 years or so. At the time, it was really all I could afford and back then Tablets were pricey and the Cintiq were insanely out of my budget. Back then it was along the lines of 4-5k. It's still a bit pricey but the cost is cut in half now for the 21 Inch Monitor. I will be checking daily to see what kind of deals I can find on Ebay or Craigslist.

Why do I need this? Well for starters, I don't like drawing or coloring using tablets because I like to look at my hand/pencil when I'm drawing. No matter how much time I've spent looking at the monitor and drawing off site, it's still not a natural fit for me. So, time to shell out the big bucks.

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:05:16 am »

FYI, I am looking for alternatives to the Cintiq if they exist. If there are other brands that allow you to draw and paint directly on the screen, I am willing to check it out and weigh the pros and cons regarding price and specs. If anyone knows anything, give me your thoughts.

jinn366 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:51:31 am »

I don't really know much about them other than I can't afford one :lol:

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:53:02 am »

Quote from: jinn366 on August 15, 2011, 10:51:31 am

I don't really know much about them other than I can't afford one :lol:

Haha. No sh*t huh.

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:55:53 am »

Fujitsu Stylistic ST5112 Tablet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYzsj2YMYAE

This looks interesting. I'm down for something that is robust (or as close as you can get to that of a Cintiq) and have the mobility that comes with an iPad.

Keith Draws · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:59:16 am »

I wouldn't like to be without mine, I've had it about 3 years now. I have the 20 version which they don't make anymore. The only issue is I have to use it fairly upright because it gets hot. I've read in forums that it does not get too hot. This is not true. If I have it at 20 to 30 degrees angle , bearing in mind I use it for around 12 to 14 hours a day, it gets hot enough to burn my hand. Having it at 60 to 70 degrees the heat stays at the top of the monitor so so long as my hand is in the lower 2 thirds of the monitor its bearable. When I got this there was a Japanese alternative for less than half the price but the monitor was only capable of displaying thousands of colours (I always thought that was a graphics card issue) so perhaps it was a mis print. Anyway I have'nt seen any alternatives recently other than self builds.
If you can afford one its worth the cash I think. I save a fortune in paper pencils and materials. Even my sketching I do on the cintiq. The down side is you never have originals to sell.

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:05:36 am »

Quote from: Keith Draws on August 15, 2011, 10:59:16 am

I wouldn't like to be without mine, I've had it about 3 years now. I have the 20 version which they don't make anymore. The only issue is I have to use it fairly upright because it gets hot. I've read in forums that it does not get too hot. This is not true. If I have it at 20 to 30 degrees angle , bearing in mind I use it for around 12 to 14 hours a day, it gets hot enough to burn my hand. Having it at 60 to 70 degrees the heat stays at the top of the monitor so so long as my hand is in the lower 2 thirds of the monitor its bearable. When I got this there was a Japanese alternative for less than half the price but the monitor was only capable of displaying thousands of colours (I always thought that was a graphics card issue) so perhaps it was a mis print. Anyway I have'nt seen any alternatives recently other than self builds.
If you can afford one its worth the cash I think. I save a fortune in paper pencils and materials. Even my sketching I do on the cintiq. The down side is you never have originals to sell.

I got to play around with this at Comic Con this year. It is pretty sick. But I really didn't ask a whole lot of questions other than "how do you do this?. What is this for?". But now that I'm really looking to get this or an alternative, I'm kicking myself for not asking more meaningful questions.

As for getting hot, is this a common thing with your set? How long can you work before the heat becomes noticeable? Any breakdowns in performance since you've had it? How reliable are refurbished ones? How much does it weigh? Do you move it around and work wherever you want or are basically married to your office? So many questions I know I have but can't think of at the moment.

The downside is definitely no originals to sell. But for me it will be for coloring and painting more the drawing, even though i know I will do some of that too.

Keith Draws · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:32:27 am »

With those tablet PC's I think you need to check how many levels of pressure sensitivity they have and how accurate the pointer is. They look good though I must admit. There are others around as well. If you are near dealerships I think it would be wise to go out and try them out with Photoshop and manga studio. I'm sure they would let you considering the costs involved.

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:35:37 am »

Quote from: Keith Draws on August 15, 2011, 11:32:27 am

With those tablet PC's I think you need to check how many levels of pressure sensitivity they have and how accurate the pointer is. They look good though I must admit. There are others around as well. If you are near dealerships I think it would be wise to go out and try them out with Photoshop and manga studio. I'm sure they would let you considering the costs involved.

The closet dealer of any kind here is Staples and they don't have anything like what we are discussing here. Best Buy doesn't have anything either. I'm not even entirely sure Fry's has anything. I know that when it comes down to buying which ever product I go with, it's going to be through Amazon most likely.

Keith Draws · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:41:19 am »

I spent 300 USD on a custom made flight case. Its right at the limit for hand luggage but they let me carry it on and off of planes. Its too heavy to have on your lap or move around easily and too delicate to risk it (hence the flight case). It gets hot pretty quick, around 30 minutes I'd say. Mine has been reliable up to now. I know nothing about refurbished ones. The pen nibs last about 4 months with constant use but are cheap enough to replace. Unfortunately I cant get them here since they wont deliver and am trying to find a solution to that. The five I have are now very worn and wont last much longer. It swings around if you want it to has useful function buttons (programmable on each side and zoom sliders on the back). the new ones have more features to I think. All in all well thought out but still very expensive considering its not a Tablet PC but just a tablet screen.

Keith Draws · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:45:10 am »

Well in the UK they were more than twice the price so I found a dealer in LA and flew over, had a holiday and even after paying import taxes I still saved almost a 1000 USD. They let me try it out before I handed over cash too. You will probably be better off buying a wacom direct from them.

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:45:44 am »

I'm curious to know if you run a fan on your Cintiq while your working and if that at helps maintain a cooler temp. Kind of like that fans you buy for Laptops and set on top of that. My concern is that with the amount of coloring I would be doing that it will overheat faster than I like, leading to a breakdown of the machine itself.

Chiprocks1 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:46:40 am »

Quote from: Keith Draws on August 15, 2011, 11:45:10 am

They let me try it out before I handed over cash too. You will probably be better off buying a wacom direct from them.

Wow. I can't see anyone doing that, given the dollar amount attached to it.

Keith Draws · « **Reply #13 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:54:49 am »

I think if the heat was going to make it break down it would have done by now. 3 years of it being on almost all the time. I use it as my main monitor. A fan wont make a lot of difference I dont think. The heat is coming from inside. I just dont know why since the power pack is external. There must a hard working chip with a heatsink in it somewhere.

Keith Draws · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2011, 11:56:39 am »

Where are you? Could you could visit the dealer in LA? I can give you their details and will dig them out if you want.

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