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Microsoft reportedly acquires N-trig, makers of the Surface Pro 3 pen



From the outside looking in, this just seems like another acquisition for Microsoft and nothing more. But the optimistic side of me has MS pouring money into the resources needed to advance the technology even further than what they currently have and really put a serious dent in Wacom's market share. Until they decide to tip the scale in their favor, N-Trig will always be considered the ugly step-child of the two when it comes to artists abroad.
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Microsoft Surface Pro 4 Release Date Nears As Mass Production Set To Begin June 2015



Last year when talk of SP4 started to heat up, I was led to believe that we would be getting a release sometime in February. Obviously that has come and gone, which I found disappointing as I have been waiting patiently for it. But with recent news that it would come with the new Windows 10 OS, it kinda makes sense that they are rolling it out mid summer. I can wait a bit longer. Hopefully it's what I want this time around.
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Apple Pencil is a stylus for your iPad




Well, my enthusiasm for this product just went out the window. The idea of Apple and Windows competing against each other is a win-win for consumers because it would invariably lower the cost as they try to lure buyers to their product. But now I'm hearing that this 'Apple Pencil' will cost $800 MSRP (internet hearsay). Seriously, whoever the f*ck would buy a pencil at that price is a rube. Even if the price turns out to be something like $100 or whatever, that's STILL too much for what is nothing more than an accessory. Talk about a company shooting itself in the foot.
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I dunno man... They have a history of selling their products at a ridiculous price and people lining up to get them... Look at the iWatch.... not that I am or ever be interested, but I was blown away at the prices of these sonzabit*ches. And that goes for many, many of their other products. This  'pencil' doesn't make me flinch one bit. It's becoming the norm.

If I remember one of my marketing classes from ions ago, pricing is a science in psychology. Throwing an expensive price on object sometimes maintains that 'desire' to want it. Throw a low price on it and it becomes a throw away item and interest fades.
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800 for a pencil?  You heard WAY wrong, dude.  The pencil is 99, tops, and that's becuase it's not a "dumb" stylus like everyone else makes, but it has stuff in it so it's far more precise with things like pressure, tilt, and so on.  It's like a tiny version of the Wiimote.  My only real issue with it is that there's only one kind, and we artists are a particular lot.

I'm sure Mac is right about the pricing, I don't know how much went into designing this thing, but I imagine we're paying R&D costs as well as machine costs, plus the stylus isn't for everyone, neither is this iPad.  It's literally a "pro" unit, smaller market share so higher cost per unit.

And all the joking about how Apple made an about face on the stylus?  They were right at the time.  Styluses for phones sucked and still suck. Just push what you want.  Easy.  The iPads have always had this.  BUT something like this, with a bigger screen that can pack in MORE detail, that artists like Chip and myself would want to use, we want a stylus and I'm sure Apple figured out there's enough demand to be worth it.  Circumstances fvcking CHANGE, and what's true for one product isn't true for another.

I hear so much b1tcing about how Apple stole the idea for this iPad from Microsoft, as if everyone doesn't draw inspiration from everyone else all the time (or that Steve Jobs hadn't said "we're ruthless about stealing good ideas when we see them), but really this is such low-hanigng fruit I'm surprised that it took this long for this thing to exist.  I do wish this thing was more distinctive, though.
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That will be the engineered for phase two. Look, they've already have those roll outs thought through.
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Currently watching the Microsoft Live Event for one reason and that of course is Surface Pro 4. They just got finished announcing the SP4 and it looks amazing with a lot of huge upgrades. This in itself sold me on it. They followed it up by announcing the Surface Book by playing a short trailer show this off to be a full-on Laptop with this fulcrum hinge, which looked great. But this wasn't something I want or needed as my primary goal was to get a tablet to do art on. They walk through everything the Laptop can provide and it was a convincing sell....but still something I didn't need given the SP4 is what I was after. This is where I thought the Surface Book announcement ended.

WRONG!

They replayed the full, extended Surface Book Trailer to reveal that this is.....also a tablet. In that moment my jaw dropped. Everything the SP4 is, is also in the Surface Book and more. I can't wait to get my hands on both products to try these out. Comes out on October 26, 2015. The SP4 starts at $899 and the Surface Book starts at $1499. I will post the specs and upgrades when they are made available. Biggest news off the top of my head is that it comes with 16gb of RAM and up to 1TB of internal storage and 1024 of pressure sensitivity. Yowzza!!  Man, I'm so excited.
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Microsoft Surface Book - Trailer



The hinge is what fooled me into believing this was a one-piece laptop. When it's pulled apart, totally caught me off guard....with a big goofy grin in place.
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Microsoft reveals first-ever laptop, Surface Book



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Surface Book Prices

128GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB - $1,499.00

256GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB - $1,699.00

256GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB / dGPU - $1,899.00

256GB / Core Intel i7 - 8GB / dGPU - $2,099.00

512GB / Core Intel i7 - 16GB / dGPU - $2,699.00

Wow, talk about a MASSIVE price jump from 256gb to 512gb. I didn't see anything about the 1 TB. I'm thinking the 1 TB is only for the Surface Pro 4.
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So, I called my local Microsoft Store to see if they had any floor models of the Surface Book and the Surface Pro 4. They do. But.....they only have one each per store. I ask the customer service guy if it was crowded. He said it was. How crowded is it I ask. He said too many people there jockeying to get their hands on it. Sigh. He said there was something like 20 people per device. I had every intention of going out there. But I'm not gonna waste my time dealing with pushy people. It's only going to get worst as the day goes on as the Mall starts filling up. I will to go in a couple of days and get there as the store opens. I really want to check this out for myself. I'm already leaning on getting the Surface Book, but I want to make sure it's everything and more that it's being touted as. You guys have a Microsoft Store nearby?
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I just got back from the Microsoft Store and spending some quality time with both the Surface Pro 4 and the Surface Book. As an artist and gamer, I think I've pretty much eliminated the SP4 from the list and will just get the Surface Book. Now it's a question of which version I want to spend money on. I won't be buying it on release day and will wait to hear from those that actually bought it and have put up reviews on YouTube. I need to hear about any issues the Book itself may have and if there is a middle ground that I can get spec wise that is equal to that of the high end version. If there isn't that much performance improvement between those, then I would feel very comfortable getting the mid-level version and save $800.

As for my in-store review, I really like the Book. The keyboard is great and types way better than the SP3. Yeah, I did end up buying the Surface 3 (not the Pro version). I picked up the lighter version (in Specs and Price) as a placeholder until I arrived at this moment. I've had plenty of time with my Surface 3 and it is a great little machine. Drawing on the tablet has been great. Feels very natural. So, I was very curious to try out using the Pen on the Book this morning and it feels waaaaaaaaay different than what I'm use to. I had heard this new Pen Nib with the Gorilla Glass does more to mimic real-life Pen usage and that perception is 100% spot on. There was plenty of drag while drawing that it immediately made the Surface 3 insanely slick by comparison. If you want the real thing or as something as close to the real thing not involving actual paper, the Surface Book is it.

The design looks very sleek and stylish. The hinge is crazy cool. Flipping the Tablet and putting it into canvas mode (laying on top of the keyboard) was easy and more importantly, comfortable. I will say that the device in laptop mode does feel heavy compared to my Surface 3 usage. It will take some time to get use to the weight of the Surface Book. I think it's around 3lbs, which isn't bad for the device in hand. I didn't get to swap put the Pen Nibs as they didn't have any on hand. There ya have it. Now it's just a waiting game for the reviews to come out......

The one question that I needed answered when I walk into the store was about Keyboard Shortcuts. As you guys know, when you use programs like Photoshop (or any program for that matter), they come with Keyboard Shortcuts. When the Tablet has been reversed and turned around and put into canvas mode, the tablet itself is physically laying flat on the Keyboard with no access to it. They suggested that I'd use the on screen keyboard. I explained that this wasn't an option because it would take up half the screen and become counterproductive using Photoshop or whatever other program I would use. I ask if using a blue tooth keyboard would be an option and he said that would work with no conflicting issues. I didn't get to try that out for myself....but I believe him. So, that's a good sign for me.
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