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Title: Jurassic World (2015)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on June 21, 2012, 05:02:42 pm
Jurassic Park IV


Coming soon.....
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on June 21, 2012, 05:03:15 pm
Jurassic Park IV Still Coming
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Post by: Mac on June 21, 2012, 05:48:35 pm
I am not going to hold my breath
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on June 21, 2012, 05:52:09 pm
You don't think it's gonna be made or you don't think it's gonna be any good?
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Post by: Mac on June 22, 2012, 04:12:35 am
Possibly both. I've heard about this a long time.
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on June 24, 2012, 10:42:52 am
Timeline of Jurassic Park IV Pre-production hell

In June 2002 director Steven Spielberg told Starlog magazine that he planned to produce Jurassic Park IV and that director Joe Johnston, who helmed Jurassic Park III, would direct. In November 2002 screenwriter William Monahan was hired to write, with the film's release slated for summer 2005.

In July 2003, Monahan completed the first draft, with the story no longer set in the jungle. Actor Sam Neill said he was returning as Dr. Alan Grant, with filming expected to begin in 2004 in California and Hawaii.

In September 2004 screenwriter John Sayles was re-writing the script, with the film re-slated for a winter 2005 release.

In October 2004 paleontologist Jack Horner said he would return as technical adviser for the fourth film as he had done for previous Jurassic Park films.

By April 2005 special effects artist Stan Winston explained that the delay in production was due to repeated revisions of the film's script, none of which satisfied Spielberg. According to Winston, "He felt neither of [the drafts] balanced the science and adventure elements effectively. It's a tough compromise to reach, as too much science will make the movie too talky, but too much adventure will make it seem hollow."

In March 2007 Laura Dern was asked to return for the new film, which Universal still wanted to release by 2008. Director Joe Johnston was also reported not to be directing the film. Richard Attenborough has been contacted about reprising the role of John Hammond. Jeff Goldblum has expressed some interest in reprising his role, of Ian Malcolm, for the fourth film.

In December 2008 Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy were asked if there was any development on the sequel. Kennedy responded, "No... I don't know. You know, when Michael Crichton passed away, I sorta felt maybe that's it. Maybe that's a sign that we don't mess with it." While Marshall and Kennedy were no longer signed with Universal Pictures in a production capacity, the two will remain involved with the studio and its plans for Jurassic Park IV.

In November 2009 Joe Johnston discussed the possibility of Jurassic Park IV, stating that the story for the film is completely different from that of its predecessors and would take the franchise into a whole other trilogy.

Jurassic Park III director Joe Johnston revealed in an interview in January 2010 that Jurassic Park IV was set to be the beginning of a second Jurassic Park trilogy. He also added, “Jurassic Park IV is going to be unlike anything you’ve seen.” Johnston says once he finishes Captain America, he hopefully will develop Jurassic Park IV with Steven Spielberg. Joe Johnston enthusiastically has confirmed the likelihood of the film's production more than once.

On June 15, 2011 it was reported that Steven Spielberg has been brainstorming with writer Mark Protosevich on a film that happens to be the fourth film in the franchise. It is unclear whether it is a reboot or the fourth installment of the original series. During a new interview with Joe Johnston in July 2011, he stated that Jurassic Park IV was being discussed and would be a spin-off of the history of the first trilogy.

At the 2011 San Diego Comic-Con, Spielberg confirmed in front of at least 6,000 spectators that preparations for Jurassic Park IV were in progress, with a story ready and a script being written. Spielberg said that it would be possibly released "within the next two or three years", with a representative from Universal saying 2013 would be the preferred deadline for completion.

In late October 2011 Jack Horner stated, "that a script has been written and is waiting to be transformed into a film". He also said, "They've already brought dinosaurs back... so how could they make the dinosaurs scarier?", stating that it will be about genetic tampering.

On October 26, 2011 Spielberg confirmed that the script was being written by Mark Protosevich, that he hoped for it to be released "in the next couple of years" and that he felt the story they were working on was stronger than that of Jurassic Park III.

In January 2012, Spielberg confirmed that he would not be directing the film, opting instead to be a producer.

On June 21st 2012, it was confirmed that Rise of the Planet of the Apes writers Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver would be scripting Jurassic Park IV.

The part where Jack Horner mentions genetic tampering is what I suspected while watching Jurassic Park III ('s-blu-rays/jurassic-park-iii-(2001)/msg9940/#msg9940) yesterday. I was asking myself where can they take this franchise and the only thing I could think of is exactly that. Mutated Dinosaurs. More monster instead of animals, which I think would seriously destroy everything about what the franchise was all about to begin with. There are a ton of Monsters flicks out there now. What's the point of going down this road? I rather see a movie about some college kid that somehow is able to grow a legit T-Rex in his Weed Grow-house on campus and  s h i t  hits the fan when the T-Rex lights up and heads for White Castle ('s-blu-rays/harold-kumar-go-to-white-castle-(2004)/msg7895/#msg7895) instead of a straight up Monster flick.

I did find it interesting that the main actors at one time or another were even being considered for this new "Trilogy" though.
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Post by: Mac on October 14, 2012, 10:21:42 am
See The Concept Art That Helped Kill JURASSIC PARK IV

The now-scrapped fourth film would have featured human-dino hybrids that looked like this.


Years ago John Sayles wrote a script for Jurassic Park IV that featured genetically engineered human-dinosaur hybrids that were super smart gun-toting mercenaries. It was, to put it mildly, a brazen and bonkers idea for a sequel to the franchise, and the script was eventually reviewed on Ain't It Cool and the project shitcanned after the internet crapped its shorts in horror.

How far did the project get? Not that far, but far enough to warrant concept art, some of which was created by artist Carlos Huante. You can see those images here, and they're not what I was expecting. I had in mind something more pulpy, real dinosaurs but with human eyes and anthropomorphized expressions. Instead what Huante came up with was essentially the design Sony used for The Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man. Some of the other pieces of concept art by other artists are cool - I love the triceratops - but Haunte tells the website Jurassic Park IV that the designs alone were enough to make Universal back down from the film - AICN's script review putting the final nail in the coffin.

I've always felt that Sayles' script would have made an awesome movie, but maybe not quite an awesome Jurassic Park movie. The triceratops and T-rex designs make me think I'd like to have seen that non-Jurassic Park movie - The Jurassic Dozen or whatever it might have been. That triceratops needs a big stogie in his mouth.






Title: Re: Jurassic Park IV (TBA)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 14, 2012, 10:26:33 am
The concept art looks cool, but the idea of Human/Dino Hybrids is just.....STUPID. I'm glad the movie is no longer in the works. This would have been the dumbest thing ever. What genius came up with this idea? It would have had NOTHING to do with the original Trilogy, which was the sense of wonder seeing Dino's roaming the Earth again.
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Post by: Neumatic on October 14, 2012, 12:06:16 pm
Doesn't anyone else just think of Alien 4 combined with Terrible Thunderlizards when they hear this idea?
Title: Re: Jurassic Park IV (TBA)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 14, 2012, 12:28:29 pm
Alien Resurrection was the first thing I thought of.
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on May 08, 2013, 11:04:45 pm
IGN News - Jurassic Park 4 Put On 'Hold'

Is this news all that shocking to anyone? Not I.
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 19, 2013, 02:58:39 pm
IGN News : Jurassic Park IV "Not A PayCheck Gig" for Director

I'm still confident this is gonna suck.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park IV (2015)
Post by: Mac on August 20, 2013, 08:50:04 am
I don't get these huge hunks of time passing and studio's wanting to do a follow up. Where is the demand coming from?

Note: Ooops, I just watched the video. Ya, I'm one of those asking... why?
Title: Re: Jurassic Park IV (2015)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 20, 2013, 08:51:22 am
Where is the demand coming from?

Hell if I know.
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 12, 2013, 02:52:14 pm
Jurassic World - IGN Conversation
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on March 19, 2014, 07:46:45 am
IGN News : Jurassic World Casting Announcement

More news. Also, gotta change the thread name to reflect the name of the movie......
Title: Re: Jurassic World (2015)
Post by: Mac on March 19, 2014, 11:33:38 am
Good... love the thinking. Seguels that do throw the character back into the same situation are head scratchers (except for Aliens,,, heh heh heh), but 3 times... stupid.
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Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 25, 2014, 11:10:55 am
Jurassic World - Trailer #1

Admit it, you're now looking forward to seeing this. The idea of an Amusement Park full of guest, trapped like fish in a barrel is too good to pass up.
Title: Re: Jurassic World (2015)
Post by: Mac on November 26, 2014, 09:21:47 am
I'm actually on the fence.
What hasn't already been told? Modified Dinosaur?
I'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Jurassic World (2015)
Post by: Neumatic on December 08, 2014, 01:54:37 am
Uh... Jeff Goldblum, uh, sits and watches the, uh, trailer for the Jurassic World trailer, and, AND, uh, offers his thoughts.  Entertaining, interesting, and, uh, insightful, I think.
Celebrity Commentary: Jurassic World trailer commentary with Jeff Goldblum.
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Post by: Mac on February 08, 2015, 09:10:12 am
I found this interesting...

‘Jurassic World’: Chris Pratt’s Trained Raptors Explained

Twenty-two years after the release of Jurassic Park, Universal Studios is set to relaunch the fan-favorite series with Jurassic World - a fresh installment that will point the series on a new trajectory going forward. With only minor characters from the previous trilogy returning, most notably Jurassic Park‘s Chief Geneticist, Dr. Henry Wu (B.D. Wong), director Colin Trevorrow has assembled a fresh-faced human cast, including Chris Pratt (Guardians of the Galaxy), Bryce Dallas Howard (The Help), and Vincent D’Onofrio (Daredevil), to face off against the biological preserve‘s prehistoric inhabitants.

Yet, in order to differentiate Jurassic World from the films that came before it, Trevorrow’s addition to the series will feature a fully operational park – a victory of scientific ingenuity (that has been entertaining visitors for ten years without incident). However, when attendance rates begin to decline, Jurassic Park’s scientists once against become too preoccupied with whether or not they could, they never stop to think if they should, creating a new hybrid dinosaur attraction. Following in the enormous footsteps of prior dino-stars, (the Tyrannosaurs Rex and Spinosaurus), the genetically modified creation Indominus Rex will usher in a bold new twist on the series.


However, a hybrid dinosaur wasn’t the most controversial plot point in the Jurassic World trailers – as Chris Pratt’s “trained” velociraptor squad became a divisive point among fans who thought the idea of domesticated raptors was either an interesting development or a completely asinine misstep.

On the most recent Screen Rant Underground podcast, we discussed why the plot point could be cool – as well as possible explanations for how Chris Pratt’s character, Jurassic World game warden Owen, managed to gain control over Jurassic Park‘s most deadly (and defiant) species.

As a result, we’ve put together four theories that could explain the velociraptors’ change from malevolent and blood-thirsty killers to semi-obedient partners in dino-rampage damage control.

Plenty of fans have scoffed at the aforementioned trailer scene of Chris Pratt driving a motorcycle, flanked by raptors, through the jungle. Most skeptics either think the scene is ridiculous (at a fundamental level) or simply believe that “domesticated” raptors defeat the entire appeal (and terror) of the iconic Jurassic Park dinos. However, what if Pratt hasn’t outright “domesticated” or “tamed” the raptors and has, instead, established himself as the ferocious animals’ alpha male? Previous Jurassic Park storylines have presented the raptors as lion-like pack hunters – led by an alpha that, if necessary, even kills potential challengers within the pride to secure a leadership position.

The relationship was clearly laid-out by former Jurassic Park game warden, Robert Muldoon (Bob Peck) in the original film:

Jurassic World‘s raptors wouldn’t be the first animals to accept a human being as their pack leader. Plenty of scientists have lived within animal communities, establishing roles as leaders within a group of wild (and downright dangerous) creatures.

Speaking on the subject, Trevorrow provided vague hints at a similar relationship between Owen and the raptors:

    “Owen’s relationship with the raptors is complicated. They aren’t friends. These animals are nasty and dangerous and they’ll bite your head off if you make the wrong move. But there are men and women out there today who have forged tenuous connections with dangerous predators. That’s interesting territory to me.”

Muldoon’s big game hunter background played a significant part in how he viewed the dinosaurs on the island – especially the raptors. As seen the in clip above, Muldoon believed the raptors should “all be destroyed.” What if Jurassic World‘s Owen believed that, conversely, the only way to control the raptors was to become the leader of their pride? Standing up to the bigger and more aggressive raptors (as seen in a brief Super Bowl trailer shot) until the entire group begrudgingly recognizes him as the top dog?

Some might find little difference between this scenario and “domesticating” the raptors; however, instead of placating the vicious dinosaurs and teaching them crowd-pleasing tricks (read: the Mosasaur aquarium), becoming a pack leader would provide Owen control over the group without undercutting the animals’ inherent ferocity, potential for betrayal, and big screen appeal.

Similar to the alpha theory presented above, it’s also possible that instead of fighting for a leadership position in the pride, Owen has overseen the hatching of each “trained” raptor. In the original Jurassic Park, John Hammond indicated that he was present at the birth of every single dinosaur on the island – which, allegedly, helped the animals trust him. It’s a story thread that was never really payed-off – as Hammond was still scared of any meatasauruses running loose in Jurassic Park.

That said, just because we don’t see Hammond halt a T-Rex attack via his parental connection, there are plenty of animal species that do imprint at birth – creating a bond that, with continual interaction, grows stronger overtime. As a result, if Owen was present at the initial hatching of each raptor, it stands to reason that even the wildest velociraptor could, potentially, mind the Jurassic World game warden, allowing him to tame their predatory impulses or, at the very least, command them to follow his instructions in certain situations.

Assuming Hammond and Dr. Wu were correct in saying that dinosaurs imprint at the time of their hatching, and that the imprinting raises the amount of trust they have for an individual, it makes sense that Owen could be uniquely positioned to work with/command the dinos – even if they aren’t outright “tamed.”

Considering that Masrani Global (the new owners of Isla Nublar) toyed with dino DNA to create an entirely new (hybrid) creature, it stands to reason that the company’s scientists could also have altered certain aspects of the velociraptor genome. After all, even in the early days of dinosaur cloning, inGen was making calculated alterations to their creations: denying embryos the possibility of a Y chromosome (to ensure all the animals were female) as well as engineering the dinosaurs with faulty genes that prevent production of the amino acid lysine (in case they ever got off the island).

According to the film, it was Dr. Wu that made the lysine contingency possible - and, since Wu is back for Jurassic World, it wouldn’t be particularly surprising if the geneticist made adjustments to the park’s most dangerous dinosaurs (once again). To that end, it’s possible that Wu and Masrani engineered their new raptors to be slightly more docile and obedient. While the notion of nerfed velociraptors would be upsetting to series fans, there’s a precedent for the idea as far back as Michael Crichton’s original story.

Check out the full conversation between John Hammond and Dr. Henry Wu from Crichton’s Jurassic Park novel (via Reddit and /Film):

    “The dinosaurs we have now are real,” Wu said, pointing to the screens around the room, “but in certain ways they are unsatisfactory. Unconvincing. I could make them better.”

    “Better in what way?”

    “For one thing, they move too fast,” Henry Wu said. “People aren’t accustomed to seeing large animals that are so quick. I’m afraid visitors will think the dinosaurs look speeded up, like film running too fast.”

    “But, Henry, these are real dinosaurs. You said so yourself.”

    “I know,” Wu said. “But we could easily breed slower, more domesticated dinosaurs.”

    “Domesticated dinosaurs?” Hammond snorted. “Nobody wants domesticated dinosaurs, Henry. They want the real thing.”

    “But that’s my point,” Wu said. “I don’t think they do. They want to see their expectation, which is quite different…. I’m just saying, why stop there? Why not push ahead to make exactly the kind of dinosaur that we’d like to see? One that is more acceptable to visitors, and one that is easier for us to handle? A slower, more docile version for our park?”

    Hammond frowned. “But then the dinosaurs wouldn’t be real.”

    “But they’re not real now,” Wu said.

Following the destruction of Jurassic Park, it makes complete sense that Masrani would be interested in taking added precautions – especially with the park’s most dangerous inhabitants. What if Wu and Masrani executives both felt that raptors, in their natural form, were a liability and too hard to handle – leading to genetic modification that made the animals “more docile” and “acceptable to visitors“?

No doubt, it’s hard to imagine the Trevorrow would turn the fan-favorite velociraptors into entirely docile shells of their former onscreen selves but it’s not too much of a stretch, especially considering the series’ ongoing thematic emphasis on humankind manipulating nature, that Dr. Wu could have done some minor tinkering with raptor genes/hormones in order to make them a bit more agreeable. After all, Jurassic World appears to be tightly controlled theme park – one that has learned from the mistakes of InGen’s past, maybe that security came at a cost: significant genetic tampering.

A less likely (but still feasible) explanation, one that could justify concerns about Pratt’s raptor pack, is the possibility that Jurassic World’s velociraptors have determined Indominus Rex is a greater immediate threat than their human captors – since the sizable hybrid is on a blood-soaked rampage (simply for the sake of sport and fun).

Taking into account raptor intellect, it’s conceivable that the normally ruthless predators would want to eliminate any significant competitor encroaching on their territory (and food sources). After all, this wouldn’t be the first time that the raptors have attempted to takedown an apex predator – simply because it got in the way of their own feeding frenzy.

Still, the aforementioned scene of the raptors actively running alongside Owen’s motorcycle in the jungle (coupled with a brief shot of Pratt “training” the dinos) makes it hard to believe that Trevorrow intends to present the velociraptors as completely free-thinking strategists. Nevertheless, it’s still conceivable that the brainy dinos are smart enough to understand they’ve got a good reason to assist Jurassic World‘s game warden (for the time being at least).

After all, the raptors of Jurassic Park III proved that the dinos aren’t thoughtless killing machines and, depending on the circumstances, have spared humans they encounter – in the interest of more pressing matters (specifically the protection of their eggs).

Should Jurassic World‘s velociraptors have similar motivations, it wouldn’t be entirely out of left field for them to refrain from killing Owen, if he served to help protect their pack from annihilation at the hands of Indominus Rex.


If you have your own theories, or can help fill in the holes in our own (or poke brand new ones), we invite you to share them in the comments!

Update: How it Should Have Ended has offered a fifth (tongue-in-cheek) theory of their own: