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Title: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 09, 2013, 10:10:29 pm
Red Dawn



Well, this brings to a close my Red Dawn marathon, having watched the Original ('s-blu-rays/red-dawn-(1984)/msg21843/#msg21843) earlier today and now the remake tonight. I went into this one with very low expectations for a couple of reason. The first was of course in how long the studio kept this shelved, refusing to release it and then the subsequent negative response from film goers once it got its theatrical run. I really didn't know what to expect from this at all, even with the trailer.

Well, I am scratching my head right now wondering what people are hating on. I thought it was a great, fun and very entertaining ride from start to finish. The pacing was fantastic. Never a dull moment. I thought the Set Pieces were great too. I was curious how much they would retain from the original film and how much they would deviate from it. I would say it's about 50/50. There was one aspect that I thought made more sense in this one in that the kids got combat training to actually learn how to fire a weapon and use strategy when engaging the enemy, something that doesn't happen in the original at all. But on the flip side, once the kids learn the basics, they suddenly become mini-Rambo's. But you know what, who the f*ck cares. I want to be entertain and damn it, I was!

I liked the big name actors in the cast that includes Chris Hemsworth, Adrianne Palick, Josh Hutcherson and Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Even though there are some obvious flaws in the remake that plagued the first one, namely enemy motivation, they at least went a little bit deeper with the characters with some back story involving the leads. Definitely worth a Rent for sure if you like big explosions and whatnot. I will give the writer(s) credit for doing one thing in particular that I NEVER saw coming that took me totally by surprise near the end of the film. I can't say as I'm not gonna ruin it for those yet to see this. Go check it out.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 09, 2013, 10:10:53 pm
Red Dawn DVD Screencaps

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Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Neumatic on August 10, 2013, 01:21:50 am
Really?  REALLY?  Well, you liked the original so I guess your perspective is different, but... really?  I will say I did dig the last action scene, it reminded me of a Hong Kong action movie that I can't remember the title of.  And the end (although they didn't have that wrap-up like in the original flick, but they did want to make this into a franchise).  But everything else... ugh, it was just... really?

I mean, okay, the team of kids?  There didn't really seem to be any difference between them, they didn't have special skills, they didn't have different perspectives, they were all gun-toting kids followin' orders.  There was no great update that made this story worth retelling, sandwich wizards.

Invaded by China: yeah, I can see why some people think that's a big issue, but if you don't have the balls to KEEP that premise, then clearly you don't care about your message.  North Korea can't invade DIDDLY.

Now, getting OWNED by China, THAT'S something.  Foreign corporate interests with their own PRIVATE armies moving in and America sort of giving in cause they have the money, THAT could be interesting.  You could explore some interesting territory there.

But there's NO REASON for China to invade the US.  For the Cold War, yeah, Russia was invading a lot of people. I guess I could conceivably see that they'd invade the US as well, but based on pure size, there's NO benefit to taking over the landmass, it's FAR too much to handle, it's a loss leader.  It's a money pit of a military operation.  What exactly do they hope to gain?  That was my big thing: WHAT WAS THE PONT?

And they're shooting themselves in the foot by taking out the POWER.  Even before this movie came out it was pretty much general knowledge that we had the most insane surveillance set-up in the world, THAT'S A HUGE THING.   If the bad guys invade, they would take control of that first.  Take this massive structure we built to protect us and turn it against us, THAT'S a chilling premise, that would have people talking well after they leave the theater, that gives you buzz and opens up a conversation about how we actually protect and police ourselves, what we do in the name of security.  And that's what gives a movie staying power.  And makes a movie worth being made.

In fact, a Red Dawn type invasion in the 21st Century, you wouldn't even know it happened until it was over.  And you would not need to drop soldiers into the streets, they'd go in like Skynet, redirecting resources and so on.  The people would be OBLIVIOUS.  You could start it as a paranoid cyberpunk thriller and then turn it into a big action movie or something.

That's what really p*ssed me off about this movie, it was f*cking stupid, it was just softball.  It had no bite.  Of course, if it did, they probably wouldn't have made it.  Or they'd have chopped it up.  And held onto it for a year.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Neumatic on August 27, 2013, 04:24:56 pm
Just posted on io9: At Last, The True Inheritor Of The Red Dwan Franchise (  From the description: The problem with the Red Dawn reboot was there just wasn't enough patriotic racism. Luckily, the yellow cyber-peril movie Dragon Day is here to bring that nationalist paranoia fix we all wanted (?) so much.
Title: Re: Red Dawn (2012)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 27, 2013, 05:00:25 pm
Is it called Dragon Day? That article is kind of all over the place.