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Title: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on August 18, 2014, 09:55:27 am
I'm still having a hard time taking this all in. Ferguson is just north of where I live and just a couple miles from where I work. This is an absolute cluster in every way possible and I'm so embarrassed for my town... St. Louis. Yes Ferguson is just a small county of St. Louis.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Ferguson, MO and Police Militarization (HBO)
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 19, 2014, 12:27:35 pm
So, another officer-involved shooting today in your neck of the woods. Seriously, the f*ck is going on over there?
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on August 19, 2014, 12:58:56 pm
Utter f uckdom
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on September 17, 2014, 09:59:55 am
Things are not getting better.

This recent 'promotional' video is intended to market and buy something to give money to?
This is so disgusting. It has Racism all over it and it's presented by children no less. It only shows how we view things differently.

Ya know, when you start off with Hey White People...

and the killer is, there were black callers saying they don't see any racism. Really? Try this experiment. Switch every thing Hey Black People and then put in every black stereotype and it becomes quite clear how racist this video is. Sets back relations by decades...

Hey White People...

So it's not possible to be friends with blacks? The sarcasm just makes it soooooo racist.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 25, 2014, 07:32:33 pm
Exclusive: Darren Wilson Speaks Out For the First Time to George Stephanopoulos

Interesting interview. I sure wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 26, 2014, 01:09:19 pm
BREAKING: New Autopsy Report Changes Everything About the Michael Brown Shooting (

Let's see how Ferguson reacts to this.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on November 26, 2014, 02:15:06 pm
The second to last paragraph has come to be the thoughts from the protestors.


And what the protestors are definitely ignoring is there were 3 autopsy's. Michael Brown's family hired their own, who is a top forensic, with the results being the same as the other two.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on December 08, 2014, 09:53:07 am
A little levity....

Cut for time.... my ass
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on December 16, 2014, 04:55:43 pm

This happened last week. The Hazelwood school district allowed students to take the day off and in fact some faculty were there.

Peaceful protest huh? Good gawd. What's happening is most of the people want their Youtube fame. They dont give a squat about Michael Brown or the issues behind it. Assclowns.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on December 16, 2014, 05:06:54 pm
I'm realizing 'ignorance' is driving force behind a lot of this conflict.

Ignorance with the protestors. Ignorance with criminals. We are losing focus.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on December 16, 2014, 05:10:36 pm
Of all the video's and news to hear this one is by far THE ONE to watch. Please watch this one and I hate to do this, but send it to everyone you know.


Hell ya
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on December 16, 2014, 05:16:58 pm
More wise words...
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on December 16, 2014, 05:24:04 pm
and on the other hand you have this asshat situation.

This does not help the cop situation at all. It's unbelievable
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on March 13, 2015, 09:23:28 am
What a ****** Up area. It just gets worse and worse, especially of the recent shooting of the cops.

Patience runs thin for Ferguson business owners

The events this week are another crushing blow to so many who lost their businesses in the violence in November.

Just a few hours ago, I met with a young woman whose beauty salon and spa in Dellwood was destroyed the night of the St. Louis county grand jury decision in the Michael Brown shooting case.

Now, Queen Barnes-Greene, and so many others, try to keep STL Together in the face of more violence last night.

"It's just not going to solve anything," says Queen. "It's just going to make things worse."

Frustration, disappointment and sadness from this mother with a baby on the way, after two police officers were shot in Ferguson. Feelings that are all too familiar Queen, who owns a salon and spa in Dellwood called Queen's Royal Touch. Today, it stinks of smoke and is still covered in soot. It was destroyed the night of November 24.

"It's just like crushed dreams is all I see here," says Queen. "I thought three months, we're going to be able to turn this thing around and it's a lot harder than I thought."

Then last night, her hopes for some real progress in the community she loves were crushed again.

"This is 2015, and we're still going through stuff that I thought my son wouldn't have to worry about," says Queen about her 10-year-old.

Queen received $5,000 from the STL Together fund.

It's a project of NewsChannel Five and the St. Louis Regional Chamber to try to get business owners back on their feet.

But for her, the real price tag to re-open is closer to $50,000 or $100,000.

"So far the lowest bid we had is $98,000," says Queen. "The lowest. And that blew me away. Are you serious?"

Money this retired teacher, who used to have 10 to 12 employees and a beautiful spot for her customers, just doesn't have right now.

"I don't have any loans," says Queen. "I started this business with my retirement. I was a teacher. Now I'm back at square one. Nothing. No retirement. Nothing."

She's grateful for the letters and support she's gotten from people as far away as Rhode Island and Mexico.

And while she's still hopeful, she knows rebuilding her salon, and repairing a community that's been torn apart again, is going to take more patience than she ever expected.

"Those young men who did it," says Queen of last night's shootings, "or whoever did it, you know, I'm going to be praying for you. Because that's just not what we're trying to do. That's not what I want to get my business back."
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Chiprocks1 on March 13, 2015, 06:10:09 pm
I'm glad I live nowhere near there. But there are f*cked up places in every city, mine included.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on May 05, 2015, 09:28:53 am
What's the cost of reform? In Ferguson, it may be $1,335/hour

After the US Justice Department released a scathing report on conduct by members of the Ferguson, Mo., police department, changes must be made if the city wishes to avoid a lawsuit.

Reform can be expensive. In the case of Ferguson, it may be about $1,335 an hour.

In order to negotiate and possibly enact the changes required by the Justice Department, the Ferguson City Council unanimously decided to hire attorney Dan K. Webb to head the charge. His hourly rate is nearly double Missouri’s highest attorney billing rate last year, reported the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and will not include any expenses and fees of Mr. Webb’s other employees who may contribute to the case.
Recommended: Can you pass the written police officer exam?

While the reforms required by the Justice Department are extensive, some critics argue that hiring such a high profile lawyer is fiscally irresponsible for the city of Ferguson. So is it irresponsible, or is it simply necessary to undergo the transformative reform necessary to meet the government’s requirements?

The reforms come in response to a report released by the Justice Department exploring police conduct within the Ferguson police department following the shooting death of Michael Brown last year. The investigation revealed a history of targeting members of the African-American community, which lead the Justice Department’s demands that the city address issues of racial bias and profiling within the system.

The city decided to hire Webb behind closed doors, and only recently released details of his pay. Webb has a history of working on high profile cases, including the New York Stock Exchange, Philip Morris, and Microsoft. He was also involved in multiple government corruption cases, including that of John Poindexter during the Iran-Contra scandal.

Webb will work closely with the Justice Department to negotiate and enact the necessary changes to promote department-wide reform, as per the investigation. Some critics argue that hiring Webb was unnecessary to achieve reform. Sam Walker, a professor emeritus at the University of Nebraska-Omaha and an expert on negotiations within the Justice Department, said Ferguson made an unwise decision.

“He’s an outstanding trial attorney, but this is not a trial,” Mr. Walker told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “It looks like they don’t know what they are doing, and they’re gearing up for a fight.”

But Webb said that he thinks the city made a good decision in hiring him to work on the case.

“Yes, I try a lot of cases, but that’s not why I was hired,” he told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “The city wanted somebody who could try the case if necessary if they had to. But they don’t want to do that, and it’s clear to me that the Department of Justice doesn’t want to do that … I have resolved a lot of cases in my time.”

The city has already undergone significant changes since the report’s release. Multiple employees mentioned in the report stepped down, as did the city manager, municipal judge, and police chief. In early April, the city elected two African-American candidates to the city council, bringing African-American representation on the council to 50 percent for the first time in history.

Still, the city faces challenges in meeting the standards set by the Justice Department. Brian Fletcher, a newly-elected council member, said that already without legal fees and implementing reforms, the city faces a $2 to $3 million budget deficit for the fiscal year ending in June, and will likely face a similar deficit the following year.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 10, 2015, 06:58:57 pm
Watching the protest live on FOXNews right now. Seriously, where the f*ck is the curfew? There was already gunfire last night. So, you would think putting in a curfew would have been the next logical step. The more time you give people to congregate in a potentially hostile environment, the bigger the chance for a full scale riot/assault to occur. One year later and you are still having to deal with this. Sheesh!
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on August 11, 2015, 04:12:11 am
Things around here were quiet. Then the 1 year anniversary and the ignorant people come out of the woodwork.

Gawd this embarrassing. Unbelievable. That part of town needs to go away.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on August 28, 2015, 01:21:29 pm
Let me ask you guys just a simple question. “What is your perception of St. Louis?”

Don’t think about. Off the top of your head, when St. Louis comes up in conversation, news, etc, what comes to mind? What do you envision?

And please, don’t think about what I might want to hear or that you might hurt my feelings. Not even fielding that. I’m interested in outside thoughts. I’m just starting to hear that places outside of this town pretty much think St. Louis is Dante’s Inferno.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 28, 2015, 06:17:26 pm
My perception of it now is not favorable. The media portrays it as a city overrun by hostile people and no way to control them. This isn't a knock against you or any other city. We all have issues with people bringing undue attention and representing the city in an unflattering light.
Title: Re: Michael Brown - Riots - Ferguson MO
Post by: Mac on September 09, 2015, 08:01:43 am
This is absolutely amazing. I am so glad to see this woman speak up. Because I can about gurantee 100% white people feel this way, and to see a black person say out loud... I wonder what percentage of the black population feels this way.

A Black Mother Gives 'Black Lives Matter' Protesters A Tongue Lashing NSFW
Her language is strong... but very effective.


Peggy Hubbard, who lives just across the river from St. Louis in Belleville, Illinois, slams BLM for tearing up communities in response to a thug being shot dead by police while ignoring the issue of black on black violence that led to the death of a 9-year-old girl in Ferguson.

Hubbard began by talking about the aftermath of the police shooting of 18-year-old Mansur Ball-Bey, who pointed a handgun at officers while he was fleeing a crack house in north St. Louis on Wednesday and was shot in self-defence as a result.

Local ‘youths’ and ‘Black Lives Matter’ activists responded by torching buildings and cars. The unrest continued for a second night,with protesters chanting “we’re ready for war” as they blocked traffic,bashed out car lights, and jumped one young white couple, with a man being severely beaten in a racist attack that the liberal media of course refuse to acknowledge.

“They went to execute a warrant for an arrest for a very very bad guy, when they came to get him,
instead of going peacefully, having his day in court, he decides to pull out another stolen gun, shoot at the police, police shot back, and he was killed,” explains Hubbard.Hubbard then references the case of a 9-year-old girl who was killed in Ferguson during a drive-by shooting, news of which emerged at around the same time.

“Last night, who do you think they protested for?” asks Hubbard.“The thug, the criminal, because they’re hollering police brutality, are you f**king kidding me? Police brutality? How about black

“You black people, my black people, you are the f**king most violent motherf**kers I have ever seen in my life!” she continues.

Hubbard went on to castigate protesters for “tearing up the neighborhood I grew up in” for a criminal
while ignoring the innocent 9-year-old girl.“There is police brutality out there. I’ll give you that. But, night after night after night, on Channel 4, Channel 2, Channel 5, Channel 30, the St. Louis
Post-Dispatch, murder, murder, murder, black on black murder. But yet you assholes are out there tearing up your own sh*t. It’s not your sh*t.

It’s other people’s sh*t. For a criminal. For a thug,” Hubbard told the rioters.She goes on to explain how her own children are in prison and that she refuses to visit them because they need to learn their lesson and do their time.

“Black people – you’re a f**king joke, you’re tearing up communities over thugs and criminals,” asserts Hubbard.

Although the response to news of 9-year-old Jamyla Bolden’s death was initially muted, some protesters did subsequently hold a candlelight march in her honor. However, the march ended at the point where Michael Brown died. Like Ball-Bey, Brown attacked a cop before he was shot dead.

Hubbard’s central point about black on black violence is routinely ignored by the Black Lives Matter movement. Figures show that 93% of blacks are killed by other blacks. The Black Lives Matter
and related anti-white racist agitation operations are primarily funded by sinister global ‘philanthropist’ George Soros.