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Title: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on March 25, 2016, 03:44:47 pm
The Original Post

So, Valerian, Luc Besson's long-awaited spiritual sequel to The Fifth Element... looks a BIT familiar... (http://imgur.com/a/5Z4Qf)

(http://www.bestmovie.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/valerian-foto.jpg)
(I do like that the original version of the characters are on his jacket in the pic, it's a nice touch)

But they look exactly like Mass Effect.  And as much as I'd love to see a Mass Effect movie (and how easygoing I am about sampling in creative works as long as it DOES SOMETHING INTERESTING), I hope that the movie feels more like Fifth Element.

Which is weird because the original Star Wars borrowed heavily from the Valerian books, (https://nothingbutcomics.net/2015/12/14/valerian/) as did The Fifth Element (with some nice additions by the no-longer-with-us Moebius).    I would hate for the uniquely funky French vision of the future to be repalced with something common and mainstream.



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Because there's so many pictures coming out for the movie... and it's so different than any other movie coming out, I think this deserves it's own thread.

Entertainment Weekly has a whole article about this (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/25/valerian-first-look-luc-besson), the enthusiasm Besson has for the project is so palpable, hopefully that will translate to general enthusiasm for the flick.

Anyway, onto more photos!

(http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1458754539/srjsfgjiluil.jpg)

Commander Shepherd... I mean VALERIAN bein' bad@ss.

(http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1458754539/sjfhsfhfshsjethk.jpg)

This might be the most Luc Besson image ever.

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/tpcvafl3erzlhv4te13f.png)

That summer style totally reminds me of The Fifth Element... particularly the net shirts and bright colours.

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QfGgGzFK--/ok85nzrlret8ayddmphj.png)

K-Tron cops.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on April 11, 2016, 09:43:41 am
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7HjgNBB4--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/egrsyjw0uyvpijfb2fmd.gif)

Courtesy of io9, here's our first behind the scenes look at Valerian.. with video! (http://io9.gizmodo.com/behind-the-scenes-video-gives-us-our-first-glimpse-of-v-1770251349).
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on April 11, 2016, 07:59:14 pm
What I've seen so far (Image-wise), I'm digging. That K-Tron cop looks bad ass.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Mac on April 12, 2016, 03:36:05 am
July 2017.... Dayum!!!
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on July 21, 2016, 03:54:26 pm
The Tracking Board (as well as a lot of other websites) have a write-up of the Valerian footage shown at San Diego Comic Con (http://www.tracking-board.com/comic-con-2016-luc-besson-wows-hall-h-with-jaw-dropping-valerian-footage/), but of course not the actual footage, which I REALLY want to see.  The visual effects still aren't done, so it's mostly practical stuff.  But oh man, I'm so excited!
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on July 25, 2016, 11:13:53 pm
Valerian panel at SDCC 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIEDTjtimSg
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on November 10, 2016, 08:30:41 am
Footage!  Finally!  Behold the first trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BszXhUjJz00
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Mac on November 10, 2016, 09:02:09 am
Gah.... I'm so torn. On one hand, I typically love Besson's vision, but something that really is putting a damper on things for me, and clearly it's my bias, is the future worlds will be saved by very young people.

admittedly I associate age/maturity to experience, skill and strength. I just have a hard time with newborns saving the universe. it just makes more sense to me to visualize older people working the problem.

I know, since Star Wars to Enders Game and the Independence Day sequel, we are given the story line of the young having the advantage. Star Wars does make sense and I kind of get Ender's Game, but Independence Day was complete crap because of the young storyline. The studio's have gone completely full bore with the millennial generation represented in output of movies today. And from what I'm hearing, they are not the ones going to the theaters and possibly not bothering with movies (DVD, streaming) all together.

I'm not going to crap on Valerian. I need to see it. I hope it holds up for me like the good movies I mentioned before.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on November 10, 2016, 09:40:12 am
Actors have to be young now because they want to make lots of sequels and do lots of stunts.  RDJ is a bit of an outlier, he's in his 50s now and he's Iron Man, but most of that is CGI.  People want to see actors in action, not CGI, not stuntmen.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Mac on November 10, 2016, 09:49:05 am
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ctors have to be young now because they want to make lots of sequels and do lots of stunts.  RDJ is a bit of an outlier, he's in his 50s now and he's Iron Man, but most of that is CGI.  People want to see actors in action, not CGI, not stuntmen.

I kinda get that, but I thought it was more for the audience they are trying to attract. I think we see very good success with older folks in action films. Will Simth, Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise, Liam Neeson, Denzel Washington, Bruce Willis, Matt Damon, etc... and the list goes on.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 10, 2016, 05:07:46 pm
I agree with both Mac and Neumatic's reasons, the good and bad of it. With that said, the Trailer looks sick. Makes me want to bust out The Fifth Element right now.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on November 10, 2016, 11:27:47 pm
Slashfilm has a three page interview with Luc Besson about Valerian (http://www.slashfilm.com/luc-besson-valerian-interview/).  Definitely going to be dense with material, I just hope it's not all jammed down our throats like happens in a lot of sci-fi films.  There's an easy trap to tall into where you do all this work and want to show it off, but hopefully it'll just be detail we can pick up ourselves without being told.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on March 29, 2017, 01:04:28 pm
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | Teaser Trailer 2 |

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsG7WJVZv8

Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on July 20, 2017, 11:34:55 pm
An article on Thrillist: Star Wars wouldn't exist without this wild French comic (Valerian) (https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/valerian-comics-star-wars-inspiration)  I got the first translated volume a month or so ago, but I wasn't expecting it to be so cartoonish and funky.  I haven't gone through all of that yet, but it reminds me more of Duck Dodgers (yeah, DUCK DODGERS) and Asterisk than Star Wars or anything like that.  But I'm sure there's more beneath the surface that I'm not seeing yet.

You know, as hyped as I am for a sci-fi thing I don't know anything about, the more I hear about it makes me think it's going to just be a massive parts movie more than anything else.  I just keep thinking about Jupiter Ascending which was the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of going to the theater, so as much as I'd like to see this on a big screen, I might be better off waiting.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Chiprocks1 on July 21, 2017, 10:28:45 am
Jupiter Ascending was / is a horrible, sh*tty movie. That would drive anyone away from ever wanting to go spend 15 bucks in a theater. As for Valerian looking and feeling like it's going to be a 'parts' movie as you said, that was the first thing on my mind when I saw the trailer drop. Yes, it looks good....but because they were driving home the fact that it's all sizzle, that's what I was left with as it being nothing more than that. Will this keep me from checking it on DVD? No. I'll definitely check it out no doubt....but I'm not going into this with high expectations other than this being more or less a Demo Reel for Home Theater Systems. With that said, I don't think Valerian is going to be anywhere near the level of dreck that Jupiter is.
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on September 17, 2017, 07:42:44 pm
"Ground Control to Major Tom."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6oTziHKM_c

I love this, feels very Star Trek (in fact, it reminds me of the opening theme from Enterprise, though I love the inclusion of Bowie).
Title: Re: Valerian- The City Of A Thousand Planets (2017)
Post by: Neumatic on December 10, 2017, 12:45:46 am
Finally finished this up, and my initial assessment was right: total parts movie.  And you know what?  Not even that many parts.  I barely drew or made notes watching this movie.  I wasn't that inspired by it.  I got a couple GIFs out of it, though.

I don't know if I would watch the whole thing again, but there are big setpieces I liked, particularly the clever Big Mart sequence at the start.  Also love the "Space Oddity" title sequence I posted earlier, but in the movie it's covered in credits, combine that with the dates (which... why even include those?)... it just looks messy with all that text.

The effects are absolutely fantastic, especially with the pearls, and I love how detailed and busy the locales are.  The Bg Mart is visually clever, the whole market exists in another dimension so you need these goggles, but it means that we'll cut from one reality to another to see Valerian just run around a wide open desert.  And we get John Goodman as a big ugly alien.

What kind of sucks is that it feels like all the weirdness of the movie is there.  And that's a big thing for me and I think a lot of the audience, this was touted (rightly or not) as the second Fifth Element, and that movie had weirdness, catchy characters and humour coming out the ears.  This didn't.  Maybe it was because Besson was protective about someone else's IP, but the characters were lacking character.  Remember Korben Dallas?  He was in love with Leeloo, but he didn't want to save the world and he didn't enjoy his cab driving job, he was always being bothered by his mother, he's trying to quit smoking... there's a lot going on there.  Leeloo is curious, constantly learning, wanders around like a cat, but also has a funny sense of humour.  Ian Holm's character (I'm blanking on his name) was a wise priest but he was also a nervous wreck, he was clumsy and forgetful, easily intimidated... you see where I'm going with this?  Valerian was lacking all of that, the characters were just their functions.

Lemme riff a little on this.  Valerian is in love with Laureline, who points out that he's had a TON of girlfriends.  Even though he's trying to propose to her the whole movie (why?), seeing him still be girl crazy and trying to stop himself, or maybe trying to make reparations to his exes, or not being able to stop asking people for advice.  Laureline in the books is from the middle ages, where the hell was that?  That would have been a GREAT wrinkle to bring into things, why not have this be their first adventure?  How about Alex the computer having a personality, maybe condescending or dry or something since they keep having to talk to her?  Without spoiling Clive Owen's character, he was a military guy in a war and now he's in charge of the station, maybe he's got some anger management issues or something?