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Title: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 09, 2012, 09:19:48 pm
'World's Thinnest' TVs Debut at CES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAyy42tCzdw

Sheesh! That's freaking thin!!!

Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on January 10, 2012, 07:02:45 am
$5000!!!

Holy Crap.

It is cool, but not that cool yet.

Keep your ears open for Smart TV's.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 10, 2012, 08:07:48 am

Keep your ears open for Smart TV's.

I'm not that smart.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on January 10, 2012, 08:31:20 am
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I'm not that smart.

We heard


Booo-ya


No seriously, that's the point. You don't have to be smart, the TV does and it does things for you. We are approaching Star Trek very quickly.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on January 21, 2012, 07:36:35 am
5 New Technologies for 2012

http://hdguru.com/5-new-2012-hdtv-technologies-that-are-actually-interesting/7134/

Some of this is sounding very cool.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 21, 2012, 07:38:03 am
I'm looking for some new TV options, will check out the link. Thanks.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on January 21, 2012, 07:46:44 am
What I'm reading coming down the pike is opening up so many options. Talking to the tv, really? My blu-ray alone has all kinds of options I haven't explored yet. TVs will now start upping the ante. Good luck, your choices are going to be wide open
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 21, 2012, 08:11:20 am
Wait a second? Now it's going to be socially acceptable to talk to the TV? I've been talking to my.....well, more like yelling at the TV and always got a disapproving look from those around me. (http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/Chiprocks1/Smilies/0%20All%20Smilies/new_tongue.gif)
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on January 21, 2012, 11:24:06 am
Yea, well now the TV may do the same.



Bhwaaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaa-haaaaaaa
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 21, 2012, 11:29:48 am
TeeVee's mocking me is not a new thing.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on February 05, 2014, 10:43:12 am
My Sony Bravia 52" is giving me trouble. Suddenly I lost the output from the TV speakers. I've had this TV for awhile off and on. Beautiful picture.

So I try everything including a reset. Nada.

I call "Bob" at Sony's customer Service. After 5 minutes of waiting for Bob to hunt down the troubleshooting guide, I get "Unplug from the power for 2 Minutes"... Nada. OK, that's all we got, call a TV repair place. Here's some numbers.

DICK's

I can still watch the TV (using my surround) with DVD's and Netflix. Just not regular local TV.

I think I can fix that by routing some wires from the TV to the receiver.

After Bob's suggestion to take it in to be repaired, I researched and found out apparently the Bravia just sucks. People have it way worse than me with bad screens. And Sony is staying mum about help.

I just hope my TV hangs in there. It was damn expensive.

But the moral of the story... DON'T BUY SONY  >:(
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on February 05, 2014, 11:07:10 am
My TV is about to crap out. The writing is on the wall. I've had this one in particular for well over 14 years. It's a Wega and never had a problem with it until a couple of months ago. Suddenly it was taking longer and longer for it to "warm up" for it to turn on. It started with a few minutes and then 15 minutes and then half an hour for it to give me any kind of picture. Last couple of weeks it takes 2 hours. Sheesh. But once it's up, it's like it's Brand New. Like I said, my TV doesn't have that many days left. I will ride it till the very end. I actually started looking at new TV's last week preparing for the inevitable so that I have an idea of what interest me. Glad to know that the prices of newer Flat Screen TV's have dropped drastically. Not sure what brand I will go with, but as you said, I won't be going anywhere near Sony.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on February 05, 2014, 12:03:01 pm
2 hours to warm up.... keeeeee-ripes

I had a TV like that... last century. It also tool 30 minutes to shut down. Click off - bright dot in the middle - slow fade

Flat screen? Where d'hell you been? It's all in the curve (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/10/are-curved-tvs-are-just-a-marketing-gimmick-ces-2014)
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on February 05, 2014, 12:05:58 pm
I'm cheap. As soon as the next fad is 'Liquid TV's', that's when I'm all over Curved TV's. ;D
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on February 05, 2014, 12:27:39 pm
Liquid TV?

How's about these sonsabit'ches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ROF31DVNiI
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on February 05, 2014, 12:47:37 pm
I'd be all over those VR TV headset things... when will those be ready for prime-time?

Apparently I have the newest TV of anyone here, it's only maybe five years old or more.  It's bigger than my last one that I got in college and works fine, but I keep thinking it's a little small (it isn't, I think I calculated the right size for my room, I just THINK it's a little small).  I keep my eyes peeled for the next drool-worthy TV to replace it, though-- I'm looking for a non-smart TV (I don't like those, they spy on you) with  USB ports, multiple HDMI inputs (so I don't have to keep unplugging and replugging my boxes like a tool) and that motion smoothing action, I know most people don't like that but I kinda do.  At least, I'd like the option.  I really want a nice screen though, my sister got a big cheap TV like the ones they have at hotels and it's not that awesome.

I think what's gonna happen is probably we'll upgrade the TV in the living room first, and then I'll just take the big living roomTV and put it in my room. 
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on February 05, 2014, 01:09:02 pm
Agree... the VR thing could be really cool. Talk about being immersed. Like Headphones but for the eyes.

Count me as one who hates that smoothing setting.  >:(

I bought a Samsung 42" about 2-3 years ago. I absolutely love it. It replaced my wife's old tube TV which sits in the cubby opening above the fireplace. I know... sucks. But believe me there is no other option. Have to live with it.

Don't know if I told you, but I bought a soundbar/woofer for it a few weeks back. Best Buy's Yellow Tag event was trying to get rid of display and out of box merchandise. The Vizio soundbar was buried in between all these large screens. They said it was out of box, but when I opened it, it appeared never out of the box. sealed up tight.

One of the best investments I've made.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on February 05, 2014, 01:38:19 pm
I have a hard time watching TV without headphones on, I'm actually kicking myself for not looking for wireless ones for the living room set last time I was at Best Buy.  I'll be doing that when I go looking for Blu-Rays in a few weeks (gotta get that new Game Of Thrones season, you know).  So headphones for the eys, they'd be great.

My take on the motion smoothing is this: I was actually pretty down on the tech when I first saw it, I thought the same thing everyone else did, the whole "security camera" looking "soap opera" thing.  But then I went to Universal Studios and did the rides, and now the motion smoothing to me looks like a big amusement park ride.  And even though I thought (especially on the big screen) that the camera movements and cutting were way too fast, I felt like I was actually IN Middle Earth when I saw the first Hobbit movie.  SO sharp, so real.  I saw clips of Avengers and Transformers 2 in motion smoothing on big plasma TVs and it felt like I could reach out and touch it, it didn't feel like I was watching frames as a fast rate, it felt like I was looking through a window.  It was more 3D than putting the glasses on to me.  And Transformers 2, I actually had a sense of the robots being physical objects and not digital schmultz on the screen, I can't stress this enough: it made Michael Bay's garbage look decent.

I might not have it on all the time if I actually got it (I don't know how I'd feel about it long-term), but for now, I'm more than willing to give it a shot because it lets me see movies in a different light, and I'm all about that.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on July 22, 2014, 08:20:12 pm
Samsung's 105 Inch Curved UHD TV Priced at $120,000 - IGN News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W98eZV6Tlzg

$120k. F*cking ridiculous! Way to price it for the masses. Dipsh*t! I don't get the mindset of these people. They know that when they set the price, they are alienating a huge percentage of the population. And they also know that once it doesn't sell, they will have to drastically reduce the price. So, why go through all this song and dance if they know that at the end of the day it cost too much.....even for rich people.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on July 22, 2014, 08:34:14 pm
Think how big 105 inches is.  This isn't for people in their homes.  This is for office lobbies, receptions, hotels... corporate money.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on July 23, 2014, 03:39:46 am
Yea no... Right in the middle of my man cave wall  ;D
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on July 23, 2014, 11:58:11 am
Your man cave would have to be Carlsbad caverns.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on July 23, 2014, 12:31:02 pm
That's Batsh*t crazy!  ;D
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on July 23, 2014, 12:43:14 pm
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Your man cave would have to be Carlsbad caverns.

Pa-shaw... 105" is only....

...8.75 Feet!!!!

Holy Crap Batman!!!!

Good gawd
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on July 23, 2014, 03:52:55 pm
What's the cost per square inch, then?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on July 24, 2014, 12:36:07 pm
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What's the cost per square inch, then?

105 diagonal TV
= 32.708333333 square feet
= 3.6342592593 square yards
= 4,710 square inches = $25.47/sq. in.
= 3,038,703.6 square millimeter
= 0.000,001,173,250,019 1 square mile
= 3.3949942602e-32 square light year
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on July 24, 2014, 01:04:39 pm
Okay, now what's the square inch cost of your house?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 04:08:21 pm
Well, it's official. My TV is DOA. Will not turn on. A few post back I had mentioned that it was taking longer and longer for it to power up. A couple of days ago it reached the 12 hour mark. That's half a day of waiting. I was expecting this to happen, but I thought I'd have another month or so just based on how it was progressing. Anyway, this couldn't have come at a worst time with New and Returning Shows starting tomorrow. Not only that, but now I have to suspend my Chuck marathon as well as suspend all of my DVDs on hold at the Library. I don't know how long it's going to take for me to get a new TV. I don't have a car that can transport a 40-50 inch TV and I certainly don't want to have to pay an additional $75-100 delivery fee that most charge. Need to find someone with a Truck or a Van that can help me out, thus the uncertainty of when I will have said TV in house. I had been eyeing QVC since my TV started failing for the past few months. But in that time, they never once had any TV's for sale. What the f*ck.

Sigh.  :(
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on September 21, 2014, 04:15:25 pm
If it takes 12 hours to turn the TV on.... why are you turning it off?

Man, I don't know what to say... is delivery really 75 dollars?  Jeezus.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 04:21:28 pm
I had every intention of leaving it on. Started doing that 2 days ago and it was starting to cook itself as it was overheating. So, turned it off last night and you know the rest of the story............
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on September 21, 2014, 04:30:20 pm
Ugh, how old is your TV?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 04:43:05 pm
14 years. It had a great run and it has lasted longer than any other TV I've had. All the others have crapped out around the 4-6 mark.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 07:00:50 pm
Holy sh*t!!!! My TV came on!!!! It only took 23.5 hours to do so. Excuse me, I have some serious TV watching that needs to get done before it signs off once and for all.............................................
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 07:01:40 pm
A day without TV sucks. No wonder I'm elated right now!!  ;D :)
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on September 21, 2014, 07:11:42 pm
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Holy sh*t!!!! My TV came on!!!! It only took 23.5 hours to do so. Excuse me, I have some serious TV watching that needs to get done before it signs off once and for all.............................................

This reminds me of the Friends episode where Joey and Chandler got free p Ron on their TV and they never wanted to turn it off in fear it would never come back.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on September 21, 2014, 07:26:58 pm
Definitely sounds like that... talk about an issue that's no longer with us (well, I guess it would be wifi now).

I have to say, I've been thinking about Friends because I was reminded about that big old chair that Joey basically lived in.  I keep thinking about it because there's this ridiculously comfortable leather chair that I've had my eye on for years, but I fear if I got it, it would be the only furniture in my house and I would wind up living in it, and deteriorating, because it's so comfortable I'd never want to get up.  Sometimes things can be too perfect.

Anyway, back to the actual POINT of the thread:

14 years for a TV is an amazing run.  Though 14 years... was it an old tube TV?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 08:08:07 pm
This reminds me of the Friends episode where Joey and Chandler got free p Ron on their TV and they never wanted to turn it off in fear it would never come back.

lol

It's EXACTLY like that!!!
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 21, 2014, 08:10:59 pm
14 years for a TV is an amazing run.  Though 14 years... was it an old tube TV?

Yeah. It's not a one of those Flat Screens. When I bought this particular TV, they didn't even have Flat Screens yet. Well, maybe they did, but they were probably in the 5k range. But I don't remember seeing them on the floor at Circuit City, which is where I bought it from.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on September 21, 2014, 09:20:48 pm
I got my first flat-screen in 2002 or 2003... because I didn't want to lug my stupid CRT TV/VCR combo up and down the stairs every semester at college.  I was the first in my dorm to have that.  And it lasted me a long time.  Better than that though is the machine I got to go with it: a Region Zero VHS/DVD recorder that I still have and STILL WORKS!

My current TV is the first one I've had since that college TV, and while I don't have the funds yet, I keep salivating at those gorgeous giant 4Ks with their motion smoothing and surround sound and multiple inputs.  But like that leather chair, it might be too much awesome for my humble self.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on September 22, 2014, 03:48:56 am
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Too much awesome for my humble self

That thar is T-Shirt material
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on September 22, 2014, 05:17:39 am
That thar is T-Shirt material

I agree.  ;D
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on September 22, 2014, 01:59:25 pm
This is why I should get into that awesome, detailed hand-lettering that I see all over the place online.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 24, 2014, 09:21:12 am
Well, I think that's it for my TV now. Since I made that statement on September 21, 2014 when it miraculously came back on, I never haven't  turned it off since then. I kept it on to ride it out for as long as possible. I'm surprised it lasted beyond 4 weeks since that day. Well, 5 minutes ago, the TV turned itself off as I was watching it. This has never happened before, so I take that to be a sign it's done for good. I will spend today researching brands, reading reviews and anything else I maybe need to know. Tomorrow I will head to Target and see what kind of deals they have and take it from there.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 24, 2014, 10:25:54 am
Good luck with that. There's a billion to choose from.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 24, 2014, 10:35:02 am
So, the more I've been reading today about what to look for, the more Smart TV's keep popping up into the mix. I know that Neumatic won't be getting any in the near future, if at all. So, I ask you guys why you would or wouldn't get a Smart TV. I want to hear your take on it to help be make a decision about it one way or another. Would like to hear what you can and can't do with them. I've read what others can and can't, but I'd like to hear your personal reasons here as I trust you both.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 24, 2014, 10:47:42 am
Ya know what, the more I'm reading about Smart TV's the smartest thing for me to do is not get one. I'm content to just get a regular HDTV and continue using my Roku box for what I already use it for. Also, the idea that my TV can be hacked is just a headache I don't want to have to deal with should it happen. And the idea of someone being able to "watch" you either through the TV's camera (why it would have one to begin with is dumb) or through the LCD panel is creepy as hell. With that, I've just saved money by sticking with HDTV. The other factor about slow to update Apps is another turnoff as well.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 24, 2014, 09:59:20 pm
Best HDTV for Gaming: How to Choose the Best Gaming HD TV for You - How To Guru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cFhJ10qtoQ


Been doing a lot of research today and it's getting a bit overwhelming of what I should look for, blah blah blah. With that said, this video is a good crash course on some of the basic jargon that tends to go over people's head, like myself. I think because I do a lot of gaming and of course watch tons of movies and tv shows, I feel that the stress is coming from buying toward gaming TV sets, which would leave me feeling like it's at the expense of getting a tv that plays great for movies and vice versa. I know at the end of the day it's splitting hairs because they benefit both. Well, Game Mode does benefit gaming. You get the idea. I do know that I need to get at least 3 HDMI ports for newer tech and I want to have component inputs as well for some of the older sh*t I have that doesn't need to be upgraded at the moment.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 25, 2014, 05:26:04 am
I do not belong to Costco or SAMs , but I know several people that have bought a set from there and are happy. Save a ton of money. The return policy is very good. They said it's really hard to go wrong.

And the  money you save... Get yourself a soundbar and sub.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 06:00:41 am
I already have a 5.1 Sound system with a 500 Watt Sub. I'm already hated by my neighbors.  ;D Costco I think offers a 90 day return policy whereas others have the typical 30 day. I can't remember which stores have cut that in half to 15. Not sure why they would go out of their way to p*ss customers off like that,
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 06:20:53 am
Television Buying Guide - HDTV, 4K and LED LCD Panel Technology (newegg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-BwxjeGBew


Another solid guide that demystifies it all.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 10:03:48 am
Man, this is harder than I thought it would be (That's what she said)  ;D

So, I just got back from Target as I wanted to see what they had, even though I have no intention of buying direct from them. Window shopping before I start looking for the best deals online. Anyway, was a bit annoyed that every TV that I looked at in my 46.-50 inch range was a Smart TV. That's all they had for anything over 46 inches. Do non-Smart TV's even exist for 2014 models? I looked on Costco's site and it seems the same as well.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 25, 2014, 12:10:50 pm
They might not... but I think you have to set up the "smart" elements anyway.

I'm at my dad's, he just got this beautiful Samsung, very small silver bezel, so it looks like the picture is floating in the air.  I can't see the model number (and I'm sure he doesn't remember), but that design combined with the 60fps mode and it looks almost unreal.  Sort of like when they matte in a TV shot onto a blank TV in cheaper shows, you know?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 12:19:52 pm
Any chance you can get that model number so that I can check it out? So, if I get a SmartTV, I can just choose to ignore the Smart Setup and just have what would amount to a "regular" TV. I just don't want my information, viewing habits and anything else I deem to be intrusive being collected by a 3rd party.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 25, 2014, 01:09:22 pm
I'm sure there are ways, since you have to connect the thing to the internet to get the "smart" features, just don't hook it up to the internet.

I asked, he doesn't know the model number and they're watching the set so I can't turn it around to see, but I'm certain it's one of the latest models (the thin bezel seems very d*mn recent)
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 02:03:28 pm
LG 47LB6300 47-Inch 1080p 120Hz Smart LED TV (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00II6VVV0/ref=twister_B00J8BOF44) keeps coming up in conversation around the net. This is just one of many I'm looking into, but I do find it appealing. Still more research to do.....
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 02:58:16 pm
Sharp - 50" Class (49-1/2" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - 120Hz - HDTV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sharp-50-class-49-1-2-diag--led-1080p-120hz-hdtv/5420114.p?id=1219128177728&skuId=5420114&st=pcmcat193400050018_categoryid$abcat0101001&cp=1&lp=1)

VIZIO - E-Series 50" Class (50" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - 120Hz - Smart - HDTV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/vizio-e-series-50-class-50-diag--led-1080p-120hz-smart-hdtv/4209048.p?id=1219096897440&skuId=4209048&st=pcmcat193400050018_categoryid$abcat0101001&cp=1&lp=2)

Panasonic - 50" Class (49-1/2" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - 120Hz - Smart - HDTV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/panasonic-50-class-49-1-2-diag--led-1080p-120hz-smart-hdtv/3730034.p?id=1219093274525&skuId=3730034&st=pcmcat193400050018_categoryid$abcat0101001&cp=1&lp=3)

VIZIO M492i-B2 49-Inch 1080p Smart LED TV (http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-M492i-B2-49-Inch-1080p-Smart/dp/B00JP7OW58/ref=psdc117_t3_B00II6VVV0_B00JP7OW58#customerReviews)

Some other TV's that I'm looking at.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 25, 2014, 08:37:11 pm
I'm not sure about the Sharp. That brand has been out of my radar for a long time.

I've got a Panasonic blu-ray. It works beautifully. Not sure about their TV's.

I also have a 54" Sony. It beautiful. It's also old, big and heavy. I thought I heard Sony had some quality issues. Maybe not recently though.

The Vizio and LG... Nothing bad yet. I'm hearing good for the price point.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 08:41:09 pm
I read the latest Consumer Report's Buyers Guide this morning and the Brands that have the best reviews for reliability are Panasonic, LG, Sony and Samsung. Vizio was next in line and Sharp a little further down the list. Westinghouse was rated the worst which is why I'm not even bothering checking for any deals with them.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 09:13:21 pm
Right now, I would say that VIZIO E500i-B1 50-Inch 1080p Smart LED HDTV (http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E500i-B1-50-Inch-1080p-Smart/dp/B00GKKI4IE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1414296535&sr=1-1&keywords=VIZIO+E500I-B1) is my leading contender. Still looking at other sets of course, but this one seems to be the sweet spot for having all the ports that I need. The one negative though happens to be conflicting information about it having 120hz. Under where it says 50 inch, it has a rundown of the specs and says it has 120hz, but if you go a bit further down the page where it shows the comparison chart, the spec says its 60hz. This is the same Model that I posted a few post back, just an Amazon link. The Best Buy link does have it at 120.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 25, 2014, 09:32:12 pm
Hey guys, should I even care of whatever TV I get has 3D or not? Does it really turn 2D content into 3D or is it all bullsh*t? Just curious. It's said that 3D for gaming does make a world a difference, but I want to do know how it is with DVDs and Broadcast shows and whatnot.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 26, 2014, 04:53:24 am
My main TV has it. At first I tried to get it to work, and it never did. I'm not sure how it would anyway. IMO, Ii would be so far down my list of considerations.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 26, 2014, 07:04:45 am
I think the converting to 3D automatically is bullsh*t since I haven't actually heard anything about that.  There's 3D content that you can buy but it's more expensive, and 3D is usually made for cinema screens, and the effect is different when it's shrunk down to TV proportions.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 26, 2014, 10:06:21 am
Need clarification on something. Every TV I've looked into has said that it comes with 1 or 2 USB ports. Now I'm guessing that you can have a thumb-drive or a PC External Hard Drive with content on it (Pictures, MP3's, Video files: AVI, MOV, FLV, etc....) and hook it up to the TV. So, how does this work? The same as on a PC? Am I going to need to have SmartTV enabled to access the content on Drives? What about software to run the different types of files? Do I need to download what I need and upload it to TV? Any information would help.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 26, 2014, 02:45:06 pm
I don't recall setting anything up to look at the pictures we put on a thumb drive.

A 'Home' screen which you will probably see when you select a 'Source', allows you to do a variety of things. I've only used it simply for looking at pics and listening to CD's.

I would say, if you get at least two USB, you should be covered.

I do believe the TV is becoming the central hub for a lot of your electronic activities.

Mine somehow displays caller ID when the phone rings. I'm stumped on that one. Cable is somehow connected to home phone in the TV.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 26, 2014, 04:44:49 pm
You shouldn't need the smart TV, my dumb set in the living room has a USB input that I use thumb drives on (my Roku does as well) and I love it!  It's just some more built-in functionality, it's more of an input than "smart."
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 26, 2014, 05:08:27 pm
That's the issue I keep running into. Everywhere I've looked, it's nothing but Smart TV's. I'd prefer to get a Dumb TV myself. Gonna hit Best Buy tomorrow morning and see what they have on the floor. But I hate the idea that if I get it there, I only have a 15 day return option.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 27, 2014, 11:19:24 am
Okay, I just got back from Best Buy. I wrote down what I think would be ideal for me. They range from 42 to 50 inches. By the time I left, I had dropped 3 of them from my list.  It's down to 5 TVs at the moment. Gonna spend the day researching and reading reviews and seeing if anyone can beat their prices....FYI, half of what made up my original list actually were "Dumb TVs", but most only had a refresh rate of 60hz which pretty much rules them out as I need minimum 120hz.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 27, 2014, 11:31:33 am
And the race is on.... who will win the Kentucky Derby of Televisions? The Sony has 2:1 odds, while the LG and  Vizio are neck and neck. Watch out, here's comes Toshiba rushing up the back.

But wait, will 3D startle them all. No? Curved television might be the surprise work horse of the afternoon race.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 27, 2014, 11:34:08 am
Toshiba was actually put down by the trainer before even reaching the gate. HGH for the horse and Weed for the jockey. But you're right on the other ones.  ;D
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 27, 2014, 11:36:34 am
Awwwww, say it ain't so about Toshiba. I got's one. I bought it as soon as it was born. It's been berry berry good to me.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 27, 2014, 11:38:49 am
Nothing against the brand itself, it's just that it didn't meet my minimum required specs for what was on the floor there.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on October 27, 2014, 12:08:25 pm
Just get yourself some Oculus and be done. Make the rest of us envious.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 27, 2014, 03:31:16 pm
How many of us are doing something else while watching TV?  I'm always either surfing, drawing, or writing when the TV is on.  That's why the Ock is still out of the question for me.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 27, 2014, 04:10:00 pm
So, I keep circling back to Vizio 50" 1080p 120Hz Full-Array LED Smart HDTV E500i-B1 (http://www.costco.com/Vizio-50%22-1080p-120Hz-Full-Array-LED-Smart-HDTV-E500i-B1.product.100095770.html). It's got all the specs I want and sh*t man, it's 100 bucks cheaper on Costco's site, plus 90 day return policy. Everything looks great, but the reviews I've read on their site as well as Amazon is scaring me off somewhat. Any of you guys have anything you can share regarding Vizio. Personal use or otherwise?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 31, 2014, 05:04:22 pm
Just saw this review for Panasonic's dumb plasma set, the TC-P50U50 that came out in 2012.  There are a couple of downsides, but maybe worth consideration...


Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 31, 2014, 05:20:25 pm
I actually ordered the Vizio 2 days ago. 1 Day ago Costco cancelled it with no warning. So, I re-ordered it. So far no cancellation. Just waiting for it to be delivered here. The price point was great, but the idea that I get 3 months to play with it and see if I want it was just an opportunity I couldn't pass up.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on October 31, 2014, 05:23:05 pm
I hope you like it, man... but don't turn on that Smart stuff!

And let us know how much you like it, in case we need to upgrade.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on October 31, 2014, 06:01:18 pm
I will evaluate and review it for you guys. I will do a "I've had it for a week now and I...." type of review to pinpoint anything that may be bothering me or not. Not sure, but I think in one of the reviews specific to this model they said that a firmware for some feature that wasn't working or whatever it was was needed to fix it and that means I would have to download it and I think it has to do with the "Smart" portion of the TV. But other than that, I really don't need any of the features since I already have a Roku box and plan on using that anyway.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on November 01, 2014, 01:30:37 pm
Welcome to the 21st century....  ;D

I would be on the lookout, out of the box, that default smooth image crap.
They may no longer do that.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on November 01, 2014, 02:21:36 pm
My dad's TV actually had smooth motion on, I didn't think it was that bad.  Yeah, I know there are aesthetic and artistic reasons not to have it on, but at the same time, the "live" look was interesting, especially watching things I had seen before (Parks and Red).
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 01, 2014, 02:31:30 pm
So, either one of you guys have your TV's on a Wall Mount? One that swivels? Looking at the prices for these makes me want to vomit. It's like you are buying 2 TV's instead of one. The average cost that I'm seeing is for around $150 new. I'm now looking for Used which will cut the cost by half, if not more. So, with that, is this a complicated install procedure or is it as simple as screwing in 4 screws into the wall? Need your advice on this.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on November 01, 2014, 02:44:52 pm
Well, the wall has to be able to support the weight, it's probably designed a certain way to be able to bear the load of the set, and the cabling probably has to be done a certain way so it doesn't detach or kink.

My dad has a wall mount, but all my sets are on their stands.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on November 01, 2014, 04:09:15 pm
I have my monstrously huge ( I mean, thick & heavy) Sony on a multiracial mount. It pulls out from the wall, tilts left and right by two hands. and I can adjust angle down, by fixed bolts. It just doesn't look like it would hold, but it does  ;D. All of mounts come with weight limits. I can't imagine a TV today being a problem at all.

I got mine from monoprice.com. Very competitive. Do not buy from the big box stores. Way more expensive.

I also bought two wall boxes to allow cabling (power, cable, speakers, red yellow blue media wires. So pretty big opening. Behind the TV and down below (8 inches above floor, behind cabinet).

I bought the extendable because I have a water turn off I have to get too twice a year.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 03, 2014, 05:19:55 pm
My TV arrived a couple of hours ago. Took some time to hook everything up. I'll get to the good stuff right now. Playing my Xbox via HDMI is INSANE! I've never seen such glorious picture quality. On my old TV, the text on the screen was tiny and blurry as f*ck, which made reading it next to impossible. I always thought the problem was with Rockstar (the creator of GTA). Well, NOW I can read it without trying. Ack! The visuals are stunning. I thought the game looked good before, but this is ridiculous.

Okay, now for the bad. My audio sounds like sh*t. I mean it's really bad to the point that I don't even want to watch TV at all. Really not sure what the deal is. I don't think it's an issue with the TV but with my Receiver. What's odd is that I had the perfect sound with my last TV. I was immensely satisfied with what I got. But now, it's complete garbage. I've gone through every iteration of what to do and nothing is working. Gonna scour around online and see if their are any fixes that I can do.

One thing I notice is that the HDMI channel I have dedicated to Xbox automatically was at 1080p, hence the stunning visuals. The HDMI channel I have for Roku looks incredibly soft as it's only 720. Not sure if that is automatic since it's a streaming box. But I can't find where I can bump it up to 1080 if I have the option to do so.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on November 04, 2014, 04:21:58 pm
Okay, an update on my Audio situation. I think I've figured out the problem. Kinda. Prior to disassembling my Home Theater setup from my 15 Year old Sony TV, I took plenty of pictures of all the connections I had (Xbox, DVD, VCR, Reciever). Everything was labeled and photographyed meticulously. So, when putting everyhtng back together on the new TV, everything was working except the audio. I tried everything I could think of. Swaped out one set of cables for the next and nothing. It wasn't until I moved the connections to the Auxiliary Channel did everything seemed to correct itself. This was going against what my pictures were telling me. Prior to getting my 15 year old TV, I had it on Auxiliary. But once I had the Sony TV, that channel no longer worked and that's when I had to move it to Phono Channel. So, the opposite seems to be working for the Vizio now. I'm still tweaking the Bass and Treble to find that sweet spot. But already the sound is a million times better than what it was. I was really sweating it today because I started looking at what it was going to cost for a new receiver and I didn't want to have to spend another chunk of change right now.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on November 04, 2014, 05:09:18 pm
Things have changed... In 15 years. Sounds like patience payed off.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on February 03, 2015, 08:39:00 pm
Samsung's 8K Glasses-Free 3D TV Blew Our Minds - CES 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STBsPHIEPA


I totally forgot to post this a few weeks back. I got so caught up watching all the segments at this years CES and this one in particular slipped my mind. Anyway, it's cool that 8k exist, but this is just way too soon. With hardly any content for 4k, why start hyping 8k now?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on February 03, 2015, 10:07:31 pm
It's because you lose half the resolution when you display an image in 3D, a 4K TV in 3D only gives you about 2K or traditional 1080 in each eye (and you can start to see the jagged edges and so on), so 8K in two eyes would basically be theater quality image in each eye.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on February 09, 2015, 01:15:20 pm
Have this TV? Its listening to your private conversations (http://fox5sandiego.com/2015/02/09/have-this-tv-its-listening-to-your-private-conversations/)

If Samsung ever gave me a 4k Tele on the condition I had to always talk to it with the knowledge they are recording everything, then sign me up!!!
 ;D
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Neumatic on February 09, 2015, 02:42:49 pm
You know, the OS is open source so you can replace it if you want to try that.  Also, you can just not connect it to the internet.  Or if you're really gutsy, go in and remove the mike.  But seriously, screw all these people who put eavesdropping mikes into products.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on February 09, 2015, 04:02:30 pm
Unfortunately Pandora's box is open. People are going to love this. Idiots. More ways to connect. Asshats
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on August 13, 2015, 10:32:12 pm
Turn your TV into a touchscreen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOuwK1AdGQo

I like the idea of being able to turn a non-touchscreen into just that. But personally, I would never use it on my 50 inch TV. There's no benefit for anyone that uses this on their home TV's. Yes, it makes perfect use for demonstrations and business related projects at work and whatnot. But is anyone gonna want to get up out of their EZ chairs to flick something on the screen? I think not. The only touchscreen that matters for me is on a tablet hybrid....one that sits on my lap or on a table.....not on something across the room.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on August 14, 2015, 03:52:44 am
Nope... The touchscreen will not fly. First, the business touchscreen a have a special surface, one being for fingerprints. Home TV's will get dirty quick. What reasons could there be to be standing ne t to the screen in the living room? It looks ridiculous.

Our screens at work are controlled several different ways, but essentially a small screen or pad from a comfortable seat with everyone else.

Besides, I thought gesture technology was making headway?
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 06, 2017, 10:23:03 pm
LG W- Series Wallpaper OLED and Atmos Soundbar - Hands on at CES 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdAda7gtdFY

This is insane in how f*cking thin this is! Even more insane is the price! I'm always going to be 5 years behind on something like this, always waiting for the price to drop to where I'm comfortable spending money on.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on January 07, 2017, 05:28:06 am
That is sooooooo cool. I'm excited.
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Mac on February 18, 2017, 01:45:12 pm
even more OLED screen stuff. I think this will be the next big physical television change.

I listend to a audiophile salesman from one our local TV/Music showrooms and he said 3D never took off and is dead. Curved screens may work well for the individual gamer, but horrible for group watching. Just to much glare/reflections etc.

anyway... some cool tech advances...

https://youtu.be/ICVmbZPhaKE
Title: Re: TeeVee's
Post by: Chiprocks1 on January 09, 2018, 03:48:50 pm
CES 2018: LG Shows Off TV That Rolls Up Like a Poster - IGN News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkzVRCqW-s

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!

This really is impressive that we are now in a time that tech like this even exist today. I don't want to even speculate what this is going to cost though.