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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2012, 10:59:41 pm »
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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2012, 04:09:30 pm »
What KISS considers a 'sham'

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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2012, 10:02:52 am »
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Guns N' Roses to Reunite at Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Induction?

I could care less. Never been a fan of G n' R. Besides, there are plenty of fish in the sea that could take his, uh, their place.

Axl Rose NOT Attending Guns N Roses Hall Of Fame Induction: Asks To Be Retracted

In what is actually quite the shocking move, Guns N Roses singer Axl Rose has released an open letter stating that not only will he NOT attend the GnR induction into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame, but he is also asking that the nomination be retracted! It’s a surprisingly well-thought out letter, although it suffers from a horrible case of run-on sentences, and Axl definitely gets his point across.


“To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N’ Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N’ Roses were to be inducted it’d be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.

Since then we’ve listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N’ Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists’ comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.

Under the circumstances I feel we’ve been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N’ Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in “our” induction (that for the record are decisions I don’t agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things… no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn’t appear to be somewhere I’m actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It’s their show not mine.

That said, I won’t be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N’ Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of “Guns N’ Roses”.

This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp’s perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I’m sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I’ll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don’t intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we’ve actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, “damned if I do, damned if I don’t” scenario all the way around.

In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I’ve publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing’s changed.
The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of “for the fans” or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal and DJ Ashba.

Izzy came out with us a few times back in ’06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in ’06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in ’11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that’s enough.

There’s a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn’t room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.

Maybe if it were you it’d be different. Maybe you’d do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We’re there for each other when the going get’s rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.

So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn’t owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another’s, or in this case several others’, expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the “no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn’t care about the fans” crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let’s move on. No one’s taking the ball and going home. Don’t get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we’ve endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball’s never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I’d like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns’ induction. More importantly I’d like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we’ve had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N’ Roses music.

I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!
Sincerely,
Axl Rose
P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III”
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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2012, 10:40:13 am »
F u c k !!

I get that Axl wants to protect his current lineup, but lets be real here. He thinks his current band is successful. It's not. GNR tours extensively in Brazil, who have rabid fans not just for GNR, but a lot of other bands as well. And I think that this is misguiding Axl into believing that the fans are okay with the 2012 roster as oppose to the classic Appetite For Destruction Lineup. He thinks he is being magnanimous with his current band when in fact he is very delusional about it all and it is HE that is rewriting history, not the other way around.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprise at all for Axl to show up "unannounced" to accept his award and do a song or two with whoever else shows up and that his response to why the sudden "change of heart" when he says that "he got the blessing from his current band and that he couldn't move on until he did this....." Or something like that.

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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2012, 11:37:46 am »
Dude, you so need to say what you feel. This sheepish quiet... we don't know what you mean.








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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2012, 11:44:12 am »
I'm working on that motherphucka!!!!
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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 11:47:03 am »
he's so stubborn.    I just think he's very much at the mercy of impulse and I mean he's probably stewed on this for months now....so it's not a rash decision I think in the end....but he for whatever reason has a HUGE aversion to either the guys in the band. what that band or that part of his past means to him....and he's not going back.

clearly there's a LOT going on in the guys head....with Chinese Democracy taking so long...I mean he carries the weight of the world on his shoulders sometimes...he's very wealthy and playing huge shows...he's probably close to 50 and just doesn't give a **** about Slash....so he's like.

NOPE.

sucks but in a very abstract way I do understand as an artist why he refuses to go backwards.

He really doesn't need to regardless of the "success" of some past thing he's done.  He can still play for 100,000 Brazilians in 2012....so what does he care...it's not like he's relegated to play to 200 people at some ****ty club across the US night after night/

so the legacy of what he's does remains intact...regardless of if he's in the Rock and Roll "hall of fame" or not.

in fact....Have you, or do you know anyone who's ever been to the RARHF?  I was in the city and didn't even go...(years back)

I think the reality is...having a leather jacket or bandanna at a Hard Rock Hotel in Vegas probably gets just as much nostalgia and exposure.

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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2012, 11:50:49 am »
If he did agree to any kind of HOF reunion, it would basically discount everything he has worked on the past 15 years as being irrelvant, which truth be told...IS!!

Bah!

What's wrong with Axl playing Brick by Brick? He could do worse!
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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 11:53:35 am »

I think the reality is...having a leather jacket or bandanna at a Hard Rock Hotel in Vegas probably gets just as much nostalgia and exposure.

:)

Last time I was at Hard Rock  C a s i n o  in Vegas, the the display at the front, right when you open the doors to enter was.....Prince's Purple Rain costume and that funky guitar of his. It was awesome. I try to jimmy it open and got the worst beating of my life.
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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2012, 12:35:58 pm »
I think he just really is exactly what he originally presented himself as.

He's a TRUE Rock and Roll rebel....you tell him to go right, he'll go left./

The first record wasn't called Appetite for Destruction for nothing.

and lets see...Slash's solo album was called.....oh yeah Slash.

he digs deep.

Chinese Democracy meaning...One.

I mean look you can't change a tiger's stripes kid.

you have to respect Axl is the real deal....past all his contemporaries...he's stayed true to himself.




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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 12:41:51 pm »
I can already hear Eddie Trunk's opinion on Axl refusing to show up.

Eddie: Finally, somebody got it right and told the Hall of Shame to go  f u c k  themselves! It's not an institution worth belonging too anyway. How can you take any organization seriously when UFO (points to Tee Shirt) isn't even a member?!

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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 12:55:48 pm »
Hmmmm, have to agree with boyinblack80. In the whole context of things... Not being in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is far from biblical, honorary, or worth value of any sort.

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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 01:02:55 pm »
who cares about the Rock and Roll hall of fame...and I don't mean that in an Eddie Trunk kind of way...but Axl being pushed any direction to reunite with G N R on anything but his own terms is totally out of character for him.

someone be it a record label or something like an institution "honoring" your past accomplishments is clearly not what W. Axl Rose got into Rock and Roll for.

He got in to Rock and Roll to tell organized society F*U*C*K YOU.

and he's stuck with that mindset...and if you burn him or tell him different...you immediately fall into the **** off category in his mind...and he rarely back pedals..

and so he did say another big **** You...to not only the people in G n R and their old label...but to any outside pressure to go back to a relationship he clearly has no interest in re-visiting.

if he wasn't this guy today...he probably never would have been the man we all admired 25 years back/

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Re: Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2012, 09:57:06 am »
Vote!!!  Yes, you the fan. Vote

Rock Hall of Fame nominees include Rush, Public Enemy, Joan Jett, more



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The nominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's Class of 2013 are in. This year's hopefuls are Albert King, Chic, Deep Purple, Donna Summer, Heart, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Kraftwerk, the Marvelettes, the Meters, N.W.A., Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Procul Harum, Public Enemy, Randy Newman and Rush. The top vote-getters will be inducted on April 18 at the Nokia Theater L.A. live in Los Angeles.

For the first time, the public gets to vote alongside the artists, historians and music industry insiders of the Rock Hall voting body. From now until Dec. 5, fans can vote on RollingStone.com for the nominees they'd like to see inducted. The top five acts will comprise a "fan's ballot" that will count as one of the more than 600 ballots that determine the Class of 2013. The results will be announced in mid-December.

"The definition of 'rock & roll' means different things to different people, but as broad as the classifications may be, they all share a common love of the music," commented Joel Peresman, president and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. "This year we again proudly put forth a fantastic array of groups and artists that span the entire genre that is 'rock & roll.'"

More...

Note: I voted for Rush, Heart, Deep Purple, Joan Jett, Albert King
The rest.... phtttttttttt

Definition of rock and roll... really. It's that different among listeners?
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2012, 10:04:09 am »
You know, allowing the Public to vote is going to cripple the institution even more. Why? Because Justin Beiber is gonna get in before KISS. The RARHOF really doesn't have a choice but to let the public vote because they have failed time and again. This new thing is basically to call people out, "you're so smart, lets see what you can do with the power". It all boils down to who THEY put on the ballot. So, the perceived "power shift" is still in their hands and they STILL fail in my eyes because, you guessed it, KISS is nowhere to be found on the ballot.

FAIL!

Having said that, I'd vote for Joan Jett, Rush, Heart and Deep Purple. I reeeeeeeeeally don't see how NWA can get nominated over a billion other far superior bands and singers. I never thought NWA was even that influential. They courted controversy and had a couple of good songs. But HOF worthy? Not even close.

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