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Title: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on December 04, 2012, 10:47:04 am
Based on the movie Scream (http://pennycan.createaforum.com/dvd's-blu-rays/scream-(1996)/msg12745/#msg12745), you watch enough of a particular genre like horror and you start to see that most have quite a few of the same "scenes" in them.

So, post what scenes you see over and over in the Horror Film genre. I will get it started:

Skinny Dipping - If the protagonist or victim is out in the woods or by a lake, this is almost a guarantee.
Running the wrong way - Victim running upstairs instead of out the front door.
Sex - As Randy said in Scream, as soon as you have sex, you die.

I don't want to post all of them so as not to include what you see over and over on your end of things. Mac, you should have a pretty good handle on this topic. All I ask of you is that you high-lite the scenes in Yellow so that it will be easier to pick them out of the thread should it get really long.

That's what she said. (http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i266/Chiprocks1/Smilies/0%20All%20Smilies/HTL_biggrin.gif)

I will also be starting other threads per genre as well. So, stay tuned.....
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on December 04, 2012, 02:02:49 pm
Cool... I just read this. I'll get back to it.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on December 04, 2012, 04:25:32 pm
A couple come to mind. In horror movies, the people that walk backwards, maybe away from a sound or image, or walk backward into a room or door without looking first. This NEVER happens in real life.

Also as black comedians are quick to point out, you white folk are crazy. When something looks very bad going down, white people do not run away, they go investigate it further.

And a big one on rom-com's where the male and female lead don't like each other, but you know by the end of the movie, they will be a couple. (see and lifetime channel movie)  ;D

Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on December 04, 2012, 04:51:33 pm
Hiding Under The Bed / In The Closet - If you're under the bed, you see the slow pacing of the killer's boots walking back and forth. In the closet you see the silhouette of the killer as the victim looks through the slats. In both cases, you never see the killer's face.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on December 04, 2012, 10:30:51 pm
This is slowly going to become TVTropes.

You guys saw "The Sleepover," right?  This addressed quite a few tropes about horror stories and urban legends.

http://vimeo.com/51541324
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on December 04, 2012, 10:34:37 pm
Never seen nor heard of it.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on December 04, 2012, 10:42:27 pm
The Phone Call - This is where the Killer reveals themselves to the main character. Granted, this only works with 'Human' killers. I can't picture Jason or Meyers calling their intended victims and grunting their way through a conversation and Freddy Kruger would have problems just dialing with that razor glove on.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on December 04, 2012, 10:55:04 pm
Mommy Issues - Think about it. Most of the Horror flicks revolve around Mothers (or Parents) and what they did wrong in their own past that comes back to haunt them later. The horror or crimes are usually directed at the offspring of said Parents. From Psycho to Scream to Nightmare On Elm Street, you can blame the Mother. Hell, in Friday The 13th, it's literally the Mother!!!
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on December 04, 2012, 11:07:01 pm
Watch "The Sleepover."  It's awesome. 

"Detention" had an awesome take off of the phone call by having the killer text the victim before slashing her-- a second after she received it.

I feel like the reason we see a lot of the family issues thing is because the idea that someone became a sick and crazy bastard because of how terrible the world is just takes too long to set up.  "My mother hit me, so I'll kill you" is much quicker and no one questions it.  Which maybe they should.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on December 05, 2012, 04:01:42 am
Same here, have not heard of it. I'll check in to it
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on December 06, 2012, 06:54:05 pm
Aliens, except for Spielberg's ET, are always bad news and pretty much bent on killing you.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on December 06, 2012, 06:56:14 pm
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"Detention" had an awesome take off of the phone call by having the killer text the victim before slashing her-- a second after she received it.

I'm hearing good stuff about Detention. You liked it?


I ordered both :)
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on December 06, 2012, 07:34:42 pm
I totally dug Detention.  It made me rethink a lot of how and what I write.

Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on December 08, 2012, 01:38:00 pm
I'm curious to know, since I don't particularly watch or seek out 'Torture  P o r n  Horror' flicks, but do they have the same cliche scenes in "traditional" horror movies or do they come with their own set of cliched scenes? Just based on the few trailers I've seen over the years, the one that pops up is of course...

Chained In A Room - Given the genre itself, it's obvious that the main or secondary characters end up being locked or chained in a basement or a 'White Walled' room that serves as the Antagonist "operating" room.

I went with Red to distinguish it from the 'traditional horror' genre. So, clue me in if it has it own set of rules and scenes. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on December 08, 2012, 02:01:26 pm
I myself would not splinter that genre off. I don't like that particular kind of horror. It all depends though on the story. But I've seen way to many where it is torture and gore for shock value and little else.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on December 08, 2012, 05:11:15 pm
The "chained in the basement" is a quick cheat to explain why the movie is locked into one location.  I did like how CUBE made it a maze of identical rooms with swapped-out wall panels, kept the look interesting... for a while.  But of course, once they're in one location, how do you keep the horror going?  You torture them.  And yeah, I don't dig torture pron either.  THere's really no point to it, I think (outside of maybe showing off gory effects work).  The only way I can think of to make that interesting or different is to have the main character have to become the killer himself, put the audience in his mind, that would be kind of terrifying, because I think people are always scared of the idea of falling off of that cliff themselves.  And it's also pure tension.

BTW, I just watched "The Sleepover" twice while browsing through Vimeo on my TV.  It's totally the kind of short I want to share with as many people as I can.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on January 22, 2013, 12:25:09 pm
The car does not start or stalls are precisely the wrong time. This is sooooo typical and quite frankly boring now.

So they spin it differently now with new camera angles and music. Tight focus on the key in the ignition, music builds, screaming beyond control.

For some freakin reason the driver turned off the ignition despite knowing a quick getaway is imperitive
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on January 22, 2013, 12:27:38 pm
I think a bunch of them are designed to take advantage of a limited cast, limited location and money.  It's easier to make a movie if you have one victim, one sadistic maniac, and one lair.  The rest is old school blood effects and so on.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on January 22, 2013, 12:32:00 pm
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The "chained in the basement" is a quick cheat to explain why the movie is locked into one location.  I did like how CUBE made it a maze of identical rooms with swapped-out wall panels, kept the look interesting... for a while.  But of course, once they're in one location, how do you keep the horror going?  You torture them.  And yeah, I don't dig torture pron either.  THere's really no point to it, I think (outside of maybe showing off gory effects work).  The only way I can think of to make that interesting or different is to have the main character have to become the killer himself, put the audience in his mind, that would be kind of terrifying, because I think people are always scared of the idea of falling off of that cliff themselves.  And it's also pure tension.

Then I believe you're really gonna like High Tension (http://pennycan.createaforum.com/dvd%27s-blu-rays/what-are-you-watching-%28dvd%27s-blu-ray%27s%29/780/)
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on March 16, 2013, 07:34:14 am
The french flick?  I saw it out of sequence when I was working at a movie theater.  And I remember the twist at the end.  Or was it a twist?  Anyway, I wasn't really drawn to it.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Mac on March 16, 2013, 08:15:05 am
Yep, a twist.

Well seeing it out of sequence is going to dork the whole experience up.

I saw The Exorcist that way. For years, I thought it was a comedy.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Chiprocks1 on March 16, 2013, 08:17:04 am
For years, I thought it was a comedy.

I saw it last week. It still is.
Title: Re: The Horror Genre Cliche Thread
Post by: Neumatic on March 16, 2013, 08:23:02 am
"The bed-- must be-- on the floor!  The bed-- must be-- on the floor!  The bed-- is on-- my foot!"
"I must rest, my son."
"YOU must rest!?  The BED is ON my FOOT!"